Of the undefeated guys, I have Crawford #1. Canelo, GGG, and Lomachencko are guys that have a single loss that get some mention. Canelo and GGG’s both clearly have a better loss than Lomachencko. And it’s debatable whether GGG has a loss at all. I personally don’t consider Canelo the P4P #1. But it’s not totally crazy if someone does. Because he arguably has the best resume in boxing.
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Originally posted by Pigeons View PostP4P is as much about how you win vs. who you beat. A tight decision vs. Jacobs won't do it, but if he sparks Jacobs spectacularly within 6 rounds, I don't think anyone would have an issue if he was placed #1.
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The f u c k i n g hell it will. All you Canelo f a g s claim GGG sucks. Clamyellow has NEVER had a decisive victory against ANY top 5 opponent. He would get annihilated by Hagler and Hearns had they been contemporaries. He wold have had 5 losses or more when Boxers were men and not divas.
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Canelo clearly belongs in the top 10 P4P.
I've had him losing against all his best opponents, with the exception of GGG 2. I guess on the strength of that second fight he might squeak into the top 5 somewhere.
A convincing win against Jacobs could put him further up. Perhaps even #3.
P4P is about who is the best P4P fighter. The simple truth is that Canelo is not, and never will be, better in the P4P sense than Lomachenko.
People can choose to accept corrupt or incompetent results in order to boost their favourite fighters P4P rankings. I prefer to just say it as it is.
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Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View PostNeg....still # 3 behind Crawford/Loma.
Crawford has made every opponent look ordinary and Loma has been phenomenal.
Gotta have T.C. at #1 and Loma #2. Canelo at #3 is absolutely justified.
Then you gotta deal with the Usyk, Ionue, SRR, etc.
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Originally posted by hitking View PostOf the undefeated guys, I have Crawford #1. Canelo, GGG, and Lomachencko are guys that have a single loss that get some mention. Canelo and GGG’s both clearly have a better loss than Lomachencko. And it’s debatable whether GGG has a loss at all. I personally don’t consider Canelo the P4P #1. But it’s not totally crazy if someone does. Because he arguably has the best resume in boxing.
Personally I cannot respect any list that doesnt have Crawford #1 right now. Hes clearly and cleanly beaten everyone in front of him and actively has every other relevant Welterweight acting like promoters so they dont have to fight him.
It's a joke and only exists because of how good Terrence Crawford is. Hes #1 today.
Canelo has a case for #2, but I have him at #3
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If gift decisions bump you up the rankings, fair enough.
I have no problem with him being p4p no.1 if we go by what it says on the record. It's just we know that he lost 2 of his last 3 fights, especially one of them.
If we go by the record, then no problem. His best "win" v GGG is far better than any win by Crawford or Lomachenko.
What's Crawford's best win? a shot Khan? a midget Gamboa? Postol? It's fair to say none of them compete with victories over Lara, GGG, Cotto and others, even if some of them were questionable decisions.Last edited by EasternEuroFan; 05-03-2019, 07:20 PM.
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I have to agree with Oscars ***** ass. All things considered Canelo has fought everyone and while some decisions are arguable, he hasn’t got his ass whooped either. He hasn’t even gone down and his record shows he has won. Most importantly we always complain about fighters ducking etc. Canelo ain’t duckin. Anyone. This is the same forums idiots that have the Charlo brothers in the top ten. Complete clown shows. Please look at member since dates before taking the bait from these noobs who don’t know **** about boxing. Loma, Spence, Crawford. While I like these guys, they are not even close yet. GGG is good but has a bum resume and has beat exactly how many Top tier opponents other than Jacobs in which I think he loss personally. Please disregard my typos.
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