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  • #91
    Originally posted by hitking View Post
    This guy is talking outta his ass. In one post, he says Canelo was better defensively. Then when you show him the punch stats, his argument switches to Canelo landed the better shots.

    Man, you are absurd.

    Munguía and Hogan , both fighters landed the same amount of punches.

    Who has better defense?

    Trout thrown more punches than Canelo, like 760

    Canelo 470

    According to you, both were good in defense lol

    Do you know that defensive skills are one of the criterias to evaluate a fight?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
      The symbolism?

      What a ****** comment.

      I don't care what Canelo said.

      I use that lógic, not Canelo .

      And Jacobs no way in hell won the fight against ggg
      Okay i guess you dont understand what i was saying...

      i dont agree with your logic...

      and for the record i also thought GGG beats Jacobs... i think if Jacobs was a little more aggressive he could have gotten the nod.

      For the record name-calling will not make your argument and or views any stronger.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
        Man, you are absurd.

        Munguía and Hogan , both fighters landed the same amount of punches.

        Who has better defense?

        Trout thrown more punches than Canelo, like 760

        Canelo 470

        According to you, both were good in defense lol

        Do you know that defensive skills are one of the criterias to evaluate a fight?

        Floyd Mayweather was undefeated... so yes i do realize defense is used to evaluate a fight.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by carloscruz10009 View Post
          Okay i guess you dont understand what i was saying...

          i dont agree with your logic...

          and for the record i also thought GGG beats Jacobs... i think if Jacobs was a little more aggressive he could have gotten the nod.

          For the record name-calling will not make your argument and or views any stronger.
          It's a non sense argument,.man.


          Canelo said that Jacobs won the fight against Ggg. I did not do that.

          I said Canelo won the fight against Trout


          IN MY OPINION

          Both fights were too close and the Knock Down did the difference.

          Thats all


          The fight of Cuadras and Estrada was too close but Juan dropped Cuadras too that was the difference

          I'm in the same line

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
            It's a non sense argument,.man.


            Canelo said that Jacobs won the fight against Ggg. I did not do that.

            I said Canelo won the fight against Trout


            IN MY OPINION

            Both fights were too close and the Knock Down did the difference.

            Thats all


            The fight of Cuadras and Estrada was too close but Juan dropped Cuadras too that was the difference

            I'm in the same line
            With harder punches and marks on peoples faces helping with your scoring.. and defense and no marks on peoples faces also helping. Ok gotcha. I feel bad for someone lole miguel. cotto who gets cut after the national anthem is sung.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
              Man, you are absurd.

              Munguía and Hogan , both fighters landed the same amount of punches.

              Who has better defense?

              Trout thrown more punches than Canelo, like 760

              Canelo 470

              According to you, both were good in defense lol

              Do you know that defensive skills are one of the criterias to evaluate a fight?
              I didn’t speak on either of them defensively in that fight. I said Trout outlanded Canelo by a significant margin, which he did. And you bring up the number of punches thrown only strengthens my argument. Just because you throw fewer punches than your opponent doesn’t give you an excuse to be hit more. Everyone threw more punches than Floyd. But Floyd pretty much outlanded everyone he fought. That’s the difference between a guy like Floyd and a guy like Broner. Neither throw a lot of punches. But Floyd is more accurate and Broner gets tagged a helluva lot more. Which is why Floyd wins and Broner loses. The reality is, Canelo is a good defensive fighter. But he’s not good enough to allow his opponent to double him in punch output. Which is why he ends up in so many controversial decisions. Canelo has fast hands and can box. So yes, he often lands the cleaner shots in his fights. But he fights in spurts. And in between his spurts, he tends to get out worked. He also tends to concede the jab to his opponent and mainly defends against power shots. He did it against Trout. He did it against GGG, especially in the first fight.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by hitking View Post
                I didn’t speak on either of them defensively in that fight. I said Trout outlanded Canelo by a significant margin, which he did. And you bring up the number of punches thrown only strengthens my argument. Just because you throw fewer punches than your opponent doesn’t give you an excuse to be hit more. Everyone threw more punches than Floyd. But Floyd pretty much outlanded everyone he fought. That’s the difference between a guy like Floyd and a guy like Broner. Neither throw a lot of punches. But Floyd is more accurate and Broner gets tagged a helluva lot more. Which is why Floyd wins and Broner loses. The reality is, Canelo is a good defensive fighter. But he’s not good enough to allow his opponent to double him in punch output. Which is why he ends up in so many controversial decisions. Canelo has fast hands and can box. So yes, he often lands the cleaner shots in his fights. But he fights in spurts. And in between his spurts, he tends to get out worked. He also tends to concede the jab to his opponent and mainly defends against power shots. He did it against Trout. He did it against GGG, especially in the first fight.
                But who was bleeding?? Thats who is really getting hit

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View Post
                  It's a non sense argument,.man.


                  Canelo said that Jacobs won the fight against Ggg. I did not do that.

                  I said Canelo won the fight against Trout


                  IN MY OPINION

                  Both fights were too close and the Knock Down did the difference.

                  Thats all


                  The fight of Cuadras and Estrada was too close but Juan dropped Cuadras too that was the difference

                  I'm in the same line
                  So if the Canelo-Trout fight was “too close” in your opinion. How is someone that judged it a one point win for Trout hater? You’re not making any sense bro.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by carloscruz10009 View Post
                    But who was bleeding?? Thats who is really getting hit
                    Cotto was robbed against Floyd because he made Floyd’s nose bleed.

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                    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      So if the Canelo-Trout fight was “too close” in your opinion. How is someone that judged it a one point win for Trout hater? You’re not making any sense bro.
                      This is where the word ****** and absurd can get inserted.. but i will not go there

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