Which network could produce the best card?

[john l]

I had it 116-112 Canelo. Danny lost way too many early rounds for it to be considered close or controversial. Two judges scoring it 115-113 is generous to Jacobs IMO. It reminds me of when people say Maidana was robbed against Floyd, they want him to lose that bad they become delusional.

All that aside Canelo looked really sharp especially in the early rounds. It was a very impressive performance. I wanna see GGG 3 next, I had GGG winning both (second was extremely close) so I think he deserves a third opportunity.

Agree. Yea its hard to jump on Canelo about his matchmaking he has fought some very good fighters, but the one person he has done a bit dirty is GGG.He made him wait a bit, not to long, but a little and then he had to wait a year for rematch because of Canelo testing dirty.Now their talking about unification which 99% of time im with, but that's also code for no GGG fight next so earliest is May now, and that's what, 2 years?He should do right thing and fight GGG next because that's the guy MOST don't think he got a LEGIT win vs yet(I had 2nd a draw).Funny thing is I would pick him to beat GGG in September, maybe even stop him.Also agree on May vs Maidona you could possible get to a draw, but that's about it and part they ALWAYS leave off, Mayweather had two fights that you can make a case he did not win, and fought BOTH in direct rematch and won CLEAR.Thats not what duckers do.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Agree. Yea its hard to jump on Canelo about his matchmaking he has fought some very good fighters, but the one person he has done a bit dirty is GGG.He made him wait a bit, not to long, but a little and then he had to wait a year for rematch because of Canelo testing dirty.Now their talking about unification which 99% of time im with, but that's also code for no GGG fight next so earliest is May now, and that's what, 2 years?He should do right thing and fight GGG next because that's the guy MOST don't think he got a LEGIT win vs yet(I had 2nd a draw).Funny thing is I would pick him to beat GGG in September, maybe even stop him.Also agree on May vs Maidona you could possible get to a draw, but that's about it and part they ALWAYS leave off, Mayweather had two fights that you can make a case he did not win, and fought BOTH in direct rematch and won CLEAR.Thats not what duckers do.

I’m a big GGG fan but I’d probably have to pick Canelo in a third fight. Golovkin would need to win convincingly to actually get a decision and I honestly don’t think he has enough left in the tank to win decisively. I hate the way they did it but Oscar/GBP timed the GGG fight perfectly. Golovkin’s foot-speed has definitely regressed which prevents him from controlling the ring/distance and cutting the ring off like he used to, that’s what allowed Canelo to push him backwards and dictate the action far more than he did in the first fight.

As for Floyd I agree, I never actually scored a fight against him. The only one I scored a draw was the ODLH fight but I was drinking with friends that night so that probably explains that one😂

[john l]

I’m a big GGG fan but I’d probably have to pick Canelo in a third fight. Golovkin would need to win convincingly to actually get a decision and I honestly don’t think he has enough left in the tank to win decisively. I hate the way they did it but Oscar/GBP timed the GGG fight perfectly. Golovkin’s foot-speed has definitely regressed which prevents him from controlling the ring/distance and cutting the ring off like he used to, that’s what allowed Canelo to push him backwards and dictate the action far more than he did in the first fight.

As for Floyd I agree, I never actually scored a fight against him. The only one I scored a draw was the ODLH fight but I was drinking with friends that night so that probably explains that one��

Yea I don't see GGG winning 3rd fight I thought he did 1st and thought 2nd a draw, but like you pointed out he is slowing down a little and that should be JUST enough for Canelo to get a LEGIT win although the more they make him wait the less a win will mean. As far as Mayweather I did not think the ODLH fight was REAL close imo, ODLH did well in 1st half but after that I thought May took over.One thing that bothers me about that fight is the "story" that ODLH JUST QUIT using his jab.Has any of these guys boxed before??You don't stop using a punch that is working unless the opponent either takes it away or makes you feel uncomfortable using it.I thought May took away the Jab by coming out of the shoulder roll defense(one weakness to D is jab) and fighting a more orthodox defense and made him hesitant by pull countering the jab.The only fights imo you can make a case for is 1st Castio,Maidana fights .I had him up by 1 in 1st JLC and by 2 in Maidana fights. He beat both by CLEAR dec in immediate rematches which his haters ALWAYS like to forget.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yea I don't see GGG winning 3rd fight I thought he did 1st and thought 2nd a draw, but like you pointed out he is slowing down a little and that should be JUST enough for Canelo to get a LEGIT win although the more they make him wait the less a win will mean. As far as Mayweather I did not think the ODLH fight was REAL close imo, ODLH did well in 1st half but after that I thought May took over.One thing that bothers me about that fight is the "story" that ODLH JUST QUIT using his jab.Has any of these guys boxed before??You don't stop using a punch that is working unless the opponent either takes it away or makes you feel uncomfortable using it.I thought May took away the Jab by coming out of the shoulder roll defense(one weakness to D is jab) and fighting a more orthodox defense and made him hesitant by pull countering the jab.The only fights imo you can make a case for is 1st Castio,Maidana fights .I had him up by 1 in 1st JLC and by 2 in Maidana fights. He beat both by CLEAR dec in immediate rematches which his haters ALWAYS like to forget.

Yeah I rewatched the May-ODLH fight and scored it 116-112 to Mayweather. I thought he won the Castillo fight 115-113. I think the poor refereeing from Drakulich and the very pro Castillo crowd was what made the fight so controversial. Castillo was arguably Floyd’s toughest opponent though, that’s probably the most distressed I’ve seen him in a fight. Maidana done waaaay better than anyone expected but Floyd still won that fight close but cleanly IMO.

[Mr.365]

Completely hypothetical, Out of ESPN, Showtime and DAZN. Which network could produce the best card using fighters that are signed exclusively to them?

Here’s what I think would be the best possible card for each. (Feel free to list your own)

ESPN.
Lomachenko-Berchelt
Crawford-Kavaliauskas
Fury-Pulev
Gvodzyk-Beterbiev
Ramirez-Kovalev

Showtime.
Spence-Thurman
Wilder-Ortiz II
Pacquiao-Garcia
Santa Cruz-Russell Jr
Hurd-Charlo

DAZN.
Canelo-GGG III
Joshua-Usyk
Estrada-Sor Rungvisai III
Bivol-Smith
Jacobs-Andrade

I only know PBC like that so here goes:
Errol vs Thurman
Gervonta Davis vs Mikey Garcia
Swift Hurd vs Jermell Charlo
Pacquiao vs Swift Garcia
LSC vs Rigondeaux

[KTFOKING]

Completely hypothetical, Out of ESPN, Showtime and DAZN. Which network could produce the best card using fighters that are signed exclusively to them?

Here’s what I think would be the best possible card for each. (Feel free to list your own)

ESPN.
Lomachenko-Berchelt
Crawford-Kavaliauskas
Fury-Pulev
Gvodzyk-Beterbiev
Ramirez-Kovalev

Showtime.
Spence-Thurman
Wilder-Ortiz II
Pacquiao-Garcia
Santa Cruz-Russell Jr
Hurd-Charlo

DAZN.
Canelo-GGG III
Joshua-Usyk
Estrada-Sor Rungvisai III
Bivol-Smith
Jacobs-Andrade

Good stuff.

For ESPN I'm changing to:

Lomachenko/Lopez
Crawford/Bes*****

For PBC:

I'd love to mix in Plant vs Benavidez some how. Not sure which fight I take off though lol.

For DAZN:

Bivol-Smith? We have already seen that fight so let's take that out. Wasn't competitive at all. How about Haney-Campbell instead?

[john l]

Yeah I rewatched the May-ODLH fight and scored it 116-112 to Mayweather. I thought he won the Castillo fight 115-113. I think the poor refereeing from Drakulich and the very pro Castillo crowd was what made the fight so controversial. Castillo was arguably Floyd’s toughest opponent though, that’s probably the most distressed I’ve seen him in a fight. Maidana done waaaay better than anyone expected but Floyd still won that fight close but cleanly IMO.

Agree 100% and May also was fighting with at least one broken hand, he has said recently that he had both hands broke but I don't remember anything like that being reported at time.Also in the June issue of THE RING they have a Mexico vs USA story where they list a bunch of times when the two countries met up, and in story they say "rumors abound that May carried a shoulder injury into bout".I had never head that before either but the editor is prob the biggest Mayweather hater in the press(dougie fisher)and is a joke of a writer who cant control his bias which is the WORST thing a writer can be.So it must have been at LEAST a rumor.BTW still love the RING but they need to fire Dougie and give it back to Collins or even better Farhood. Yea anytime a big underdog does better then thought he always seems to get TOO MUCH credit at least from fans/press.

[Phenom]

I honestly don't care for another Canelo v GGG for 3rd year in row feels like a stale franchise that needs a reboot

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Good stuff.

For ESPN I'm changing to:

Lomachenko/Lopez
Crawford/Bes*****

For PBC:

I'd love to mix in Plant vs Benavidez some how. Not sure which fight I take off though lol.

For DAZN:

Bivol-Smith? We have already seen that fight so let's take that out. Wasn't competitive at all. How about Haney-Campbell instead?

I meant Bivol vs Callum Smith.
Not Joe😂

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Agree 100% and May also was fighting with at least one broken hand, he has said recently that he had both hands broke but I don't remember anything like that being reported at time.Also in the June issue of THE RING they have a Mexico vs USA story where they list a bunch of times when the two countries met up, and in story they say "rumors abound that May carried a shoulder injury into bout".I had never head that before either but the editor is prob the biggest Mayweather hater in the press(dougie fisher)and is a joke of a writer who cant control his bias which is the WORST thing a writer can be.So it must have been at LEAST a rumor.BTW still love the RING but they need to fire Dougie and give it back to Collins or even better Farhood. Yea anytime a big underdog does better then thought he always seems to get TOO MUCH credit at least from fans/press.

If I remember correctly wasn't May getting his shoulder massaged in between rounds? I don’t think it was a serious injury but it was effecting him.

I don’t like that Dougie either, the likes of him and Rafael are just egotistical, self-important ****holes tbh. Too busy trying to push their own agenda instead of actually being coherent journalists.