Comments Thread For: Spence: Arum's Desperate; He's Mad Because I Hold All the Cards

[GhostofDempsey]

To some extent, Spence does have more options given the stack of potential WW opponents under PBC. But that doesn't mean one of those opponents can't backfire on him. Danny Garcia, Porter, Thurman, can all sneak by him and squeak out a win. If that happens, the Spence train gets derailed and his stock will plummet.

[factsarenice]

Bottom line, Spence is ducking Crawford, period.

Either your about business or about the best fighting the best? Can't have it both ways.

Bob Arum started pushing all these in-house fights because he had all the big money fighters. He told everyone else to "F##$" off. But now the tables have turned. His precedent is now biting him in the @ss.

Now he needs the other promoters to make money for his fighters. He's overpaying for fights he knows no one cares about and the very same people he crapped on are now ignoring him. You wreap what you sow.

I want to see the top figters fight each other in their prime, but Bob Arum caused this. Oscar left, to be his own man. Floyd left to be his own man and get the money and fights he wanted. Cotto left on good terms, but still to be his own man and get the fights he wanted. Mickey left, to be his own man. Notice the pattern here. Bob is the common denominator when it comes to fights not getting made.

Spence is just saying out loud what everyone that follows boxing already knows. Crawford is a fantastic fighter but he either didn't think the offer he chose through, didn't know the history of Haymen and Arum, or just didn't care and took the paydays over legacy. He wont see a PBC fighter for the next 2 years short of some insane offer that Bob will never go for.

[factsarenice]

To some extent, Spence does have more options given the stack of potential WW opponents under PBC. But that doesn't mean one of those opponents can't backfire on him. Danny Garcia, Porter, Thurman, can all sneak by him and squeak out a win. If that happens, the Spence train gets derailed and his stock will plummet.

If Spence loses to Crawford it's over. Al's grip on the WW division is lost and without another hedge fund to bail him out the PBC is likely done.

[bronx7]

The last Welterweight Title Unified Undisputed championship of fighters in their Primes and also top 10 PFP of fighters during that time WBA, WBC, IBF major belts of the day SUGAR RAY vs HEARNS. Primes Oscar/ Trinidad any otters of top of fans heads? Floyd fought Manny 6 years late. Manny OUT of prime

[AdonisCreed]

Spence is planning on doing what AJ has done in the HW division, go after the belts. So as long as he fights Porter and Thurman or Pac he's good. But Spence better not start taking mandatory fights over title fights. He better make good on his word. I still believe Spence beats Crawford. Crawford has two flaws in his game he tends to swing wild in exchanges and he stands straight up with his hands out when he back peddles same thing that Wilder does. And for Spence I don't know how well he can deal with a slick fighter with movement. Which is why this match-up is a good one. The thing that sucks for Crawford is that he doesn't have any good options whereas Spence has more.

We're all forgetting one thing though MONEY TALKS! I believe if Bob Arum made Spence a offer he couldn't refuse we'll get the Spence-Crawford fight. That's Crawford's best bet. Bob should make Spence a solid offer so we can get this debate over with already lol

[factsarenice]

Some people love promoters and business more than the best vs best. At least your honest about it.

There's a place for that conversation next to the article about McDonald's closing stores and Star Bucks stock option.

We have to hope no upset or injury Messes up 2020. Spence staying sharp with best of best . Crawford is stuck with B level WW.

[bronx7]

Spence has way more options than Bud no comparison. Spence not ducking Bud. If he beats Porter then Thurman Manny winner and maybe if Garcia has any hardware he has all belts except buds, if he cleaned up Haymons stable if he then won’t fight Bud then it’s ducking

[factsarenice]

Spence is nothing like AJ, AJ fights everyone and offers 100 million to step in with him.

Spence's biggest pay was an offer made to him by a light weight. No hate just a fact.

Spence is planning on doing what AJ has done in the HW division, go after the belts. So as long as he fights Porter and Thurman or Pac he's good. But Spence better not start taking mandatory fights over title fights. He better make good on his word. I still believe Spence beats Crawford. Crawford has two flaws in his game he tends to swing wild in exchanges and he stands straight up with his hands out when he back peddles same thing that Wilder does. And for Spence I don't know how well he can deal with a slick fighter with movement. Which is why this match-up is a good one. The thing that sucks for Crawford is that he doesn't have any good options whereas Spence has more.

We're all forgetting one thing though MONEY TALKS! I believe if Bob Arum made Spence a offer he couldn't refuse we'll get the Spence-Crawford fight. That's Crawford's best bet. Bob should make Spence a solid offer so we can get this debate over with already lol

[factsarenice]

Crawford is too dangerous at 147, pure and simple.

Spence has way more options than Bud no comparison. Spence not ducking Bud. If he beats Porter then Thurman Manny winner and maybe if Garcia has any hardware he has all belts except buds, if he cleaned up Haymons stable if he then won’t fight Bud then it’s ducking

[GhostofDempsey]

If Spence loses to Crawford it's over. Al's grip on the WW division is lost and without another hedge fund to bail him out the PBC is likely done.

Another unfortunate byproduct of living in an era where one loss will result in your social media followership disappearing and you're fighting for journeyman money again. I don't mind if this fight marinates one more year, I think that's where it will peak in terms of fan interest and PPV earnings. Beyond that it starts to move past it's sell-by date.