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  • Eff Pandas
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    #11
    Originally posted by Andre_parker1
    efe ajagba Vs Charles Martin...make it happen...lets have a former "world champion" on that budding resume
    I could see that in the next 6-12 months actually. Makes sense. And being that Martin did better than most of us expected vs Kownacki it ain't a bad measuring stick for Efe's future potential.

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #12
      Originally posted by Andre_parker1
      efe ajagba Vs Charles Martin...make it happen...lets have a former "world champion" on that budding resume
      Too early. remember what happened Izu against Breazeale and he was far more experienced fighter.

      Martin is no joke, if he comes to fight like against Kownacki.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Too early. remember what happened Izu against Breazeale and he was far more experienced fighter.

        Martin is no joke, if he comes to fight like against Kownacki.
        go watch the Aj fight, Charles Martin can't take that Nigerian hammer right hand

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          #14
          You guys need to slow down the hype a bit with Ajagba. He can end up being very good, but still a work in progress. He needs more variety in his punches and can't just cover up on the ropes when someone is bringing the fight to him.

          But Ronnie Shields has already acknowledged Ajagba is raw and needs more seasoning. Be patient with him. Keep him busy and let him get his rounds in and then give him a live dog.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            Nah. Joyce has a proven chin already doe which is always a concern at HW, but idk that its good that we already know that about Joyce either.

            Efe has a lot of question marks on him, but he's doing what he's supposed to be doing thus far. I think he needs to tighten & speed up his punching doe or a smarter/crafty guy will be able to exploit some of his tendencies.
            He needs to start fighting some smarter, craftier, fighters! Unless Ronnie takes him the Iron Mike route! 13 fights in 1986! SALUTE!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              He needs to start fighting some smarter, craftier, fighters! Unless Ronnie takes him the Iron Mike route! 13 fights in 1986! SALUTE!
              Sure, but I think they are moving him fine now & moving him upward & onward.

              Tyson was an anomaly & outlier with his activity.

              Randomly for a long time I used to think Tyson's early run was how it should be done & was the preferred path for success for a hyped young pro, but now I see its a insane what Tyson did in the 80's.

              Today I think anyone outside the top 100 fighting 6-10 times a year is doing it about perfect. And anyone inside the top 100 who's not in the 2-4 fight range is probably not fighting quality enough guys or just stagnant in their progression.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                Sure, but I think they are moving him fine now & moving him upward & onward.

                Tyson was an anomaly & outlier with his activity.

                Randomly for a long time I used to think Tyson's early run was how it should be done & was the preferred path for success for a hyped young pro, but now I see its a insane what Tyson did in the 80's.

                Today I think anyone outside the top 100 fighting 6-10 times a year is doing it about perfect. And anyone inside the top 100 who's not in the 2-4 fight range is probably not fighting quality enough guys or just stagnant in their progression.
                Ol' Skool! They did their sparring with judges! Sugar Ray Robinson fought 20 times from 63-64! If Efe fights 5 a year, he'll be ready for a title in 2020!I want to see what he's like when he's angry!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Ol' Skool! They did their sparring with judges! Sugar Ray Robinson fought 20 times from 63-64! If Efe fights 5 a year, he'll be ready for a title in 2020!I want to see what he's like when he's angry!
                  If Ray had a time machine back in the day & came to 2019 he'd be fighting 6 to 10 times on the way up & 2 to 4 times when he started fighting better guys too.

                  Different times brother. The game is shaped differently today & was even shaped differently in in the 80s.

                  I don't think number of fights even matter like you're saying. Guys improve primarily in the gym while just getting a pass or fail grade in the ring.

                  If anything fighting too much while preparing for specific types of opponents less with less time = your chances of losing go up & in todays world an L diminishes your immediate, & I'd even argue to some degree your career, net worth.

                  Back in the day an L or bad performance didn't hurt a fighter so bad. Either no one saw it or heard about it or no one really cared if you took your 3rd loss cuz the champion gots 7 losses & only a couple guys in the top ten didn't have 3 or more L's themselves.

                  And if Mike was fighting today he'd probably be the 13-0 promising prospect who ended up in prison for 30 years for murder or got killed with the time mfers have these days between fights.

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                    #19
                    I'm high on Ajagba but I think someone like Christian Hammer would be ideal. Someone who is crafty but not too dangerous. He just took Ortiz the distance so that would be a nice measuring stick. Another option would be Dawejko...someonr who could extend him rounds and give him just enough frustration that he learns from it.

                    Martin fought a pretty damn competitive fight with Kownacki and appeared to hurt the Pole in the later rounds; the same Kownacki who obliterated Gerald Washington. I know he's been ridiculed but a motivated and confident Martin might be too much for Ajagba at this point. I'd rather see him fight Martin or someone of that I'll after 2-3 more fights.

                    Give him Spilzka, Dawejko and Hammer then Martin. That would be a solid resume.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                      If Ray had a time machine back in the day & came to 2019 he'd be fighting 6 to 10 times on the way up & 2 to 4 times when he started fighting better guys too.

                      Different times brother. The game is shaped differently today & was even shaped differently in in the 80s.

                      I don't think number of fights even matter like you're saying. Guys improve primarily in the gym while just getting a pass or fail grade in the ring.

                      If anything fighting too much while preparing for specific types of opponents less with less time = your chances of losing go up & in todays world an L diminishes your immediate, & I'd even argue to some degree your career, net worth.

                      Back in the day an L or bad performance didn't hurt a fighter so bad. Either no one saw it or heard about it or no one really cared if you took your 3rd loss cuz the champion gots 7 losses & only a couple guys in the top ten didn't have 3 or more L's themselves.

                      And if Mike was fighting today he'd probably be the 13-0 promising prospect who ended up in prison for 30 years for murder or got killed with the time mfers have these days between fights.
                      I respect the game has changed, and for the better! Traumatic Brain Injuries are no joke! Should he fight 5 bums a year, or should he now move to 3 B-levels a year?

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