spence & ortiz; so called "boogeyman" fighters running from smoke

[Curt Henning]

Yeah yeah Spence fights Porter than winner of Pac /Thurman maybe a bs defense in between and you know and everybody else he’s going to 154......Promoter groupies are down right weird.

and bob is over here "hey guys please come watch my guy in a fight no one cares about under the guise that erroll spence is ducking him"

LOL

[Mister Wolf]

"crawfish wants errolls scalp"

his promoter knows theres no way hes getting that fight....he knows what al has in store...al has good fights to make and can unify 3 belts over the course of a year +......

guaranteed if haymon came out tomorrow with 50/50 in vegas on showtime ppv bob would come up with some way to backpedal and say "wed rather wait till we feel it can do a million or more buys"

Did Bob not accept a 50 50 split to make May vs Pac during the first negotiations?

[Longhaul]

He beat Kell Brook in Sheffield.

That's a fight none of the other welterweights wanted.

My honest opinion it was to soon after GGG and I think he had weight problems but that’s not Spences fault. So yeah I give him credit for that but not much else.

[Curt Henning]

Did Bob not accept a 50 50 split to make May vs Pac during the first negotiations?

point flew over your head

bobs first round of negotiations with pac/floyd were a ruse....he had the clottey fight in his pocket the whole time.....he said publicly he would do 50/50 but still found a way to kill the fight with the testing.....because he prefered to milk pac with in house fights till he was ready to cash him out.....

bob said 50/50 for pac may but he reality is he knew he had a way to kill it with his "needles" excuses and all of that

same here...hes saying all this good stuff people wanna hear...but if al told him today "lets do this" he would find some way to back away...but he knows he wont have to because haymon prob wont even look at him knowing all the fights he can make at WW without bob

bob knows its not gonna happen now...which is why hes yapping

[Bullrider]

Spence would soon ask for retirement money.

[Longhaul]

and bob is over here "hey guys please come watch my guy in a fight no one cares about under the guise that erroll spence is ducking him"

LOL

Can you or Motor Sh$Tty ever discuss a fight without bringing Promoter hate or race up.Wait till he goes to 54 and never fights Crawford then we will see what you have to say......Say no to Promoter groupies

[Mister Wolf]

point flew over your head

bobs first round of negotiations with pac/floyd were a ruse....he had the clottey fight in his pocket the whole time.....he said publicly he would do 50/50 but still found a way to kill the fight with the testing.....because he prefered to milk pac with in house fights till he was ready to cash him out.....

bob said 50/50 for pac may but he reality is he knew he had a way to kill it with his "needles" excuses and all of that

same here...hes saying all this good stuff people wanna hear...but if al told him today "lets do this" he would find some way to back away...but he knows he wont have to because haymon prob wont even look at him knowing all the fights he can make at WW without bob

bob knows its not gonna happen now...which is why hes yapping

So its Arums fault Pac refused unlimited blood testing haha. For years. I'm done Curt no need to continue this.

[Curt Henning]

So its Arums fault Pac refused unlimited blood testing haha. For years. I'm done Curt no need to continue this.

lol...are you dumb? the answer is yes

you think bob had no idea that pac would "refuse"...heck its just as likely bob conjured it up himself and told pac to say it

"we make more money this way pac...we keep fighting guys and then take the fight later...if we dont win now we wont be able to earn as much"

and as you noticed...pacs star slowly faded after that loss..

yes bob knew...thats why he could say anything "oh yeah well take 50/50...oh yeah we want the fight"...bob even knew beforehand floyd would ask for the tests because floyd had been saying it

jesus you are slow

[boxinggod101]

He beat Kell Brook in Sheffield.

That's a fight none of the other welterweights wanted.

Thats his biggest win. Brook was damaged goods but still a good win. That win alone gives him a better resume than Crawford.

[SCEN3RY]

He beat Kell Brook in Sheffield.

That's a fight none of the other welterweights wanted.

He was mandatory, he didn't have a real argument on location. I give him props for the win, but don't overrate it. We know Brook dropped weight and came off a good beating from a big man.