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  • El Gitano
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    #21
    Didn't a white boy beat Hopkins even after he said no white boy would ever beat him..... and then, a white boy ended retiring him.

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      #22
      Originally posted by El Gitano
      Didn't a white boy beat Hopkins even after he said no white boy would ever beat him..... and then, a white boy ended retiring him.
      although to be fair, none had beat him up to then so he had some basis for the claim if it was about the past, he was just a utter fool to be claiming that as a man in his mid40s, just waiting to be beat at some point.

      It was just bad marketing at the end of the day. In a way its true that Joe Cal wouldnt have stood a chance against prime hop.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        Calzaghe was scared into retirement by a White guy?

        What are you talking about?

        Lay off the crack pipe.
        Both over-rated, loved by Brits. Held belts and waited till great fighters were past it before picking them off.

        Read between the lines dummy.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          You sound like an American. You have that ******ed feel to you where you talk mad crazy nonsense that isn't close to the truth or reality based.

          From where does this delusion come from then? Not a European Wlad/Vitali fan trying to smear are you?

          Holyfield was happy for Don King to keep freezing Lewis out for years because he wouldn't sign with him. But they still tried to get him in the ring. At one point, Holyfield asked for 10 Mill to fight. Lewis and his side got the money only for Holyfield to then do what so many Americans do by asking for double that. They always price themselves out to duck. Typical American move.

          Tyson gave up the WBC title to duck Lewis and even paid Lewis millions to step aside beforehand. He never wanted it. After Lewis schooled him when they were both young, Tyson made sure to duck him. Tyson even tried to get out of the fight when it was finally made by biting a chunk out of his leg. That's how scared Tyson was.

          These facts can be found on Boxrec and all over the internet. Nothing about Lewis ducking either of them because it isn't true.
          You must be related to him. Lewis never got his shot because he was FLATTENED by Tyson's sparring partner. At the time Mike came out of prison, Lewis was a B+ player.

          Lewis is older than Tyson and when they sparred as kids Tyson chewed him up. He even said himself he attacked him viciously.
          Tyson was unified HW champ in 88 when Lewis who supposedly schooled him was still in the AM's. How the hell can he have schooled Tyson in sparring if he wasn't even good enough to turn pro!! You are in dreamland if you think the prime Tyson wouldn't have murdered any version of Lewis. McCall destroyed him in 4, Tyson would have brutally KO'd him in 6 rounds.

          The only fact is Lewis took step aside money to avoid Tyson knowing he could wait it out and pick him off when he was shot. Which is what he did. Smart move but don't act like Lennox was some boxing god when he was not.

          Prime Tyson destroys any version of Lennox.

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            #25
            Originally posted by lopetego
            "I'm like fine wine. I just get better with age"

            -- Lennox Lewis during National Conference Call, April 24, 2003

            Yeah, that was 2 months before his fight with Vitali

            dude had no intentions whatsoever of retiring before facing the terror from ukrania

            Vitali obviously made him reconsider his plans, after that brutal match where he only won due to fouling and having a biased doctor, referee and venue on his side

            after the fight, he held the belt hostage for months and waited to see if Vitali would lose his next fight with Kirk Johnson. After Klitschko destroyed Johnson in 2 rounds and the WBC ordered the rematch, Lennox suddenly announced his retirement

            Vitali retired Lewis. If Vitali wasn't around Lennox would have fought until his 40's surely




            The difference is, Calzaghe was talking about considering retiring even 2 years before his final match with Hopkins

            The thought of retiring never even crossed Lewis' mind until he got pummeled by Klitschko and got within a hair's breadth of losing in brutal fashion

            Vitali effectively scared Lewis into retirement
            Lewis said "I'm like a fine wine" for years. At some point though it wasn't going to be true was it? That moment came against Vitali.

            All Vitali did was let Lewis know that once you've reached your mountain top, there is no going back. You need the fire and the passion to compete. Lewis didn't have it any more. He was 37 when he beat Tyson and spent over a year out of the ring after the fight basking in the glory of what he had achieved. What 37 year old athlete does that? But Lewis thought the brothers were easy work and thought he could be casual about it all because boxing was all he knew. Well, he got a wake up call. It just happened to be Vitali who did it. With how shot Lewis looked, anyone could have made Lewis look bad that night and have him reassess his plans. His balance that night as well as his timing and control of distance were really bad. That's why he forced the fight and fought at closer quarters. He was done.

            Lewis was a proud man, that's why he kept hold of the title. It was hard for him to deal with. All he needed was some time to come to terms with it all and to listen to the people close to him that retiring was the right decision to make. Nothing more. Fighting for the wrong reasons isn't good. He saw that in the end and didn't let his pride get the best of him like so many had before him. He did the right thing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by tonysoprano
              Both over-rated, loved by Brits. Held belts and waited till great fighters were past it before picking them off.

              Read between the lines dummy.
              Both brutally underrated you mean. But it's OK, you have your reasons to be biased and ******. It's no biggie.

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                #27
                Originally posted by tonysoprano
                You must be related to him. Lewis never got his shot because he was FLATTENED by Tyson's sparring partner. At the time Mike came out of prison, Lewis was a B+ player.

                Lewis is older than Tyson and when they sparred as kids Tyson chewed him up. He even said himself he attacked him viciously.
                Tyson was unified HW champ in 88 when Lewis who supposedly schooled him was still in the AM's. How the hell can he have schooled Tyson in sparring if he wasn't even good enough to turn pro!! You are in dreamland if you think the prime Tyson wouldn't have murdered any version of Lewis. McCall destroyed him in 4, Tyson would have brutally KO'd him in 6 rounds.

                The only fact is Lewis took step aside money to avoid Tyson knowing he could wait it out and pick him off when he was shot. Which is what he did. Smart move but don't act like Lennox was some boxing god when he was not.

                Prime Tyson destroys any version of Lennox.
                Lewis never got a shot due to a defeat 2 years earlier? Oh, right. That makes perfect sense. Haha. Holyfield got his shot though after losing to Bowe in the 3rd fight without even being a mandatory and everyone thinking Holyfield was done by that point. People genuinely thought Holyfield's health was in danger. But yeah, it was the fight to make. Haha.

                Lewis was mandatory so he had earned his shot. Tyson paid 4 Mill step aside money so he could fight Seldon and Lewis accepted because he thought that Tyson would keep his word and fight him next. But no, Tyson dropped the WBC title like that other b1tch Rid**** Bowe did years earlier. Tyson was always scared of Lewis ever since they were kids. How can Tyson be stripped of the title otherwise? Think about it. Lewis had to take the 25% split or Tyson gets to keep the title. God you're ******

                At first Tyson went heavy in sparring. It took Lewis by surprise that's all. But after that, Lewis said "Don't worry, I've got this" and proceeded to school Tyson for the rest of his stay. D' Amato didn't like what he was seeing so stopped it. D' Amato then proclaimed that both would meet in the future for the undisputed title in one of the greatest fights the world would ever see. This happened while both were still amateurs.

                Lewis was good enough to turn pro. He just wanted to become Olympic champion so stayed amateur to secure the gold in his second attempt.

                Tyson is made for Lewis. Tyson's style is there to be played with. Lewis has the reach and the skill to keep Tyson from getting inside where he needs to be. Tyson always struggled with fighters that could keep him at arms length. Look at the Douglas fight. Lewis is all wrong for Tyson. Only a moron would think otherwise. And I can see you fit the bill.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                  Both brutally underrated you mean. But it's OK, you have your reasons to be biased and ******. It's no biggie.
                  And you have your reasons to worship over-rated Brits. Unfortunately the rest of us aren't as ****** and gullible as you clearly are.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Lewis never got a shot due to a defeat 2 years earlier? Oh, right. That makes perfect sense. Haha. Holyfield got his shot though after losing to Bowe in the 3rd fight without even being a mandatory and everyone thinking Holyfield was done by that point. People genuinely thought Holyfield's health was in danger. But yeah, it was the fight to make. Haha.

                    Lewis was mandatory so he had earned his shot. Tyson paid 4 Mill step aside money so he could fight Seldon and Lewis accepted because he thought that Tyson would keep his word and fight him next. But no, Tyson dropped the WBC title like that other b1tch Rid**** Bowe did years earlier. Tyson was always scared of Lewis ever since they were kids. How can Tyson be stripped of the title otherwise? Think about it. Lewis had to take the 25% split or Tyson gets to keep the title. God you're ******

                    At first Tyson went heavy in sparring. It took Lewis by surprise that's all. But after that, Lewis said "Don't worry, I've got this" and proceeded to school Tyson for the rest of his stay. D' Amato didn't like what he was seeing so stopped it. D' Amato then proclaimed that both would meet in the future for the undisputed title in one of the greatest fights the world would ever see. This happened while both were still amateurs.

                    Lewis was good enough to turn pro. He just wanted to become Olympic champion so stayed amateur to secure the gold in his second attempt.

                    Tyson is made for Lewis. Tyson's style is there to be played with. Lewis has the reach and the skill to keep Tyson from getting inside where he needs to be. Tyson always struggled with fighters that could keep him at arms length. Look at the Douglas fight. Lewis is all wrong for Tyson. Only a moron would think otherwise. And I can see you fit the bill.
                    More garbage. Tyson weren't afraid of anyone especially Lewis but the money fight was Holyfield. They had been due to fight before Tyson went to jail and Lewis at that time was not box-office. He had been knocked out COLD by a Tyson sparring partner which pretty much tells you what a prime Tyson would have done to Lewis.
                    The idea a 17 year old Tyson was schooled by Lewis is a laughable. You weren't there you're just fantasing about your hero. You are dumb if you think a guy good enough to be undisputed champ at 21 would have struggled with anyone who was an amateur until 23. Clearly only an idiot like you believes that fairy tale.

                    Truth is Lewis was nowhere near good enough compete with pros in 88. Anyone who saw his early fights in the UK (as i did) would know he was YEARS away from World level. Tyson in 88 would have demolished him. Obviously you didn't see him box at that time. Admit you're talking out your ass.

                    Lewis beat a washed up shell of Tyson fighting purely for money alone. You have to be ****** to credit that victory as being indicative of what him fighting a prime Tyson would be like. Clearly you are that dumb.

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                    • Sid-Knee
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tonysoprano
                      More garbage. Tyson weren't afraid of anyone especially Lewis but the money fight was Holyfield. They had been due to fight before Tyson went to jail and Lewis at that time was not box-office. He had been knocked out COLD by a Tyson sparring partner which pretty much tells you what a prime Tyson would have done to Lewis.
                      The idea a 17 year old Tyson was schooled by Lewis is a laughable. You weren't there you're just fantasing about your hero. You are dumb if you think a guy good enough to be undisputed champ at 21 would have struggled with anyone who was an amateur until 23. Clearly only an idiot like you believes that fairy tale.

                      Truth is Lewis was nowhere near good enough compete with pros in 88. Anyone who saw his early fights in the UK (as i did) would know he was YEARS away from World level. Tyson in 88 would have demolished him. Obviously you didn't see him box at that time. Admit you're talking out your ass.

                      Lewis beat a washed up shell of Tyson fighting purely for money alone. You have to be ****** to credit that victory as being indicative of what him fighting a prime Tyson would be like. Clearly you are that dumb.
                      Tyson was very much afraid. That's just fact. He dropped the WBC title for a reason. Why do you think he dropped it?

                      Tell me how much Tyson/Holyfield made? Then tell me how much Tyson/Lewis would have made?

                      A defeat 2 years earlier had no baring at that point. Holyfield was knocked out a year before he fought Tyson. What don't you understand about this? You're just talking nonsense. Nor do you understand what getting knocked out cold means because Lewis was on his feet at the time of the stoppage.

                      How would being beaten by McCall prove what Tyson would have done when Lewis beat much better fighters? Tyson being beaten by Douglas in his prime shows what that style does to him. Besides, Lewis was focussed on Bowe and Holyfield when he fought McCall so didn't have his head on straight. Not only that, but the ref should have allowed him to continue after the knock down.

                      It's a known fact by everyone who was there that Lewis schooled him. You call yourself a Tyson fan and you don't know this? Look it up so you don't continue to look silly.

                      Why wasn't Lewis good enough to compete with Pro's? Because he stayed amateur? Your logic is all over the place.

                      A fighter who had only a few fights at pro level wasn't ready for world level? No shlt sherlock. How many fighters do you know other than Usyk and Loma who were ready from the get go? I'm talking prime for prime and you're talking about a seasoned pro against someone who had just turned over. Haha.

                      Give it up before you make a bigger fool of yourself. You're clearly out of your depth here. You even said Lewis never got a shot at Tyson because he was beaten by McCall even though that happened 2 years earlier and he was mandatory. Holyfield wasn't and had been knocked out by Bowe only a year earlier. Haha.

                      Sort your story out first before talking your nonsense. It's embarrassing.

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