Why was “marinating” a good thing prior to 2015, but not now?

[Eff Pandas]

In fairness I get why people don't like it more as they age. I've seriously joked that if I start getting up into those late 60's, 70's that I'd quit watching boxing cuz whats the point I'll never see a lot of the fights cuz I might f#cking die so I'll find something better & more immediate to enjoy I figure.

Its sorta does get crazy to think boxing works in a timetable thats completely unrelatable to how other sports operate. But it is what it is & its been what it is so while your opinion & stance on marinating may have legitimately changed over the last decade or two or three or four or five, cuz I know we got some serious miles in the game cats here in some cases, that doesn't mean marinating doesn't make the most sense for the people who keep boxing afloat, for better or worse at times, in the present moment in time.

So marinating IS going to be the most often road traveled until there are some alterations to the structure of boxing that makes it so marinating makes less sense to the people who keep boxing afloat, for better or worse, in the present moment in time.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I saw a lot of fans out there praising the virtues of marinating fights just a few years back. Saw fighters who gave themselves a pat on the back for being smart to marinate big fights. Now it seems those same fans want fights made immediately. No build up, no marinating, no waiting a year or two. They were ok with years on end of marinating, but now they are are impatient?

It was never and will never be a good idea. Completely dumb. Put the best in with the best. No BS!!

[Mister Wolf]

Currently everyone is in a hurry to see Crawford vs Spence and opposing fans accusing the other of ducking. In one or two years both these guys will still be in their prime. I think one more year of build up wil make this a bigger fight.

Same with AJ and Wilder, Thurman and Spence, Loma and López, etc.

Oddly enough, the same fans demanding Loma fight Teo want to say that Tank is too young, too inexperienced for Loma. Casuals.

Why do you give a **** if the fight is bigger. How much money do you stand to make off the fight?

[Eff Pandas]

Most of the marinating was done by ol’ Bob.

Lopez vs. Gamboa

Donaire vs. Mares

Pacquiao vs. Marquez III

Pacquiao vs. Mayweather

And ol’ Bob is still the one doing the marinating.

Its the most profitable strategy. And Bob is a bean counter promoter. So yea Bob does employ that strategy more than anyone else. Bob wants to get paid when his guy finally loses or just get paid off in the big fight where his fighters risk to lose is likely to be greatest.

Its genius from a profitability standpoint, but its not something thats enduring to any boxing fan thats paying attention & who wants to see big fights in a more timely fashion cuz there is no promoter who's gonna extend a fight further out then Bob will.

I bet Bob has a computer program that he pays someone else to operate that tells him the max best outcome for making any big fight at any date with hundreds of variables that add or takeaway from a fights mainstream appeal & reach & therefore its profitability. If he doesn't have it I bet its something thats in his head that he's got a gut feeling about.

[Bob Haymon]

Marination makes sense for some fights but now there's 3 seperate leagues fighters are competing in, ESPN, PBC & DAZN, which means the marination process is taking even longer than when it was just HBO and Showtime. Now any matchup that is even somewhat relevant gets drawn out forever. You're not allowed to face the best fighter in the division if they're with another promoter until you've exhausted all the in-house options.

[Nehnenqui]

Its the most profitable strategy. And Bob is a bean counter promoter. So yea Bob does employ that strategy more than anyone else. Bob wants to get paid when his guy finally loses or just get paid off in the big fight where his fighters risk to lose is likely to be greatest.

Its genius from a profitability standpoint, but its not something thats enduring to any boxing fan thats paying attention & who wants to see big fights in a more timely fashion cuz there is no promoter who's gonna extend a fight further out then Bob will.

I bet Bob has a computer program that he pays someone else to operate that tells him the max best outcome for making any big fight at any date with hundreds of variables that add or takeaway from a fights mainstream appeal & reach & therefore its profitability. If he doesn't have it I bet its something thats in his head that he's got a gut feeling about.

Us boxing fans are just impatient it seems. Marinating is profitable no doubt. The whole Marvel MCU Franchise is pretty much marinating. From Iron Man in ‘08 to Avengers Endgame they’ve been marinating and look at all the dough they’ve stacked.

[Eff Pandas]

Us boxing fans are just impatient it seems. Marinating is profitable no doubt. The whole Marvel MCU Franchise is pretty much marinating. From Iron Man in ‘08 to Avengers Endgame they’ve been marinating and look at all the dough they’ve stacked.

No argument from me its the most profitable method of attack. Hell man read my last 3 paragraphs above again. I f#cking get it.

BUT the thing is boxing fans are ultimately sports fans & there is no other sport in the world that operates like boxing does. And for lotsa sports fans & even boxing fans specifically who pay some attention to other sports thats a frustrating & unappealing fact.

I mean why does any fan care that all these other mfers are maximizing profits as you sit around as the consumer insuring they get a piece of the money they are getting watching fights you dig well enough, but aren't the fights you wanna see today reallllllllly?

It is a two way street to some degree & its likely way boxing fans are among the most disgruntled fans around. And its also why I believe less people pay attention to boxing today than in previous eras so while the profit thats around is being maximized to full effect the reality is the pool of money that could be coming to boxing is less than if they were giving more people what they want more often.

There is another side to this whole thing & that whole other side could actually be the max best outcome for all parties, from the fans to the boxers to the promoters, if boxing started selling itself to more people by being more universally appealing to non-hardcore fans. But thats dream sh^t with where boxings mindset is as a whole right now.

[KillaCamNZ]

"Marinating" was never a good thing. It was, and is, just a term people use to try and deflect criticism from their preferred fighters.

It helps some fans sleep at night.

[KillaCamNZ]

Us boxing fans are just impatient it seems. Marinating is profitable no doubt. The whole Marvel MCU Franchise is pretty much marinating. From Iron Man in ‘08 to Avengers Endgame they’ve been marinating and look at all the dough they’ve stacked.

The thing is though, those movie studios, they have a plan. They aren't "marinating" anything, they're building profit based on a legitimate business plan.

"Marinating" in boxing is just a term people use when things aren't going anywhere. No one "marinates" fights in boxing - they simply put things off until another day.

[Floyd is TBE]

I don't think fights are being purposely "marinated". The common denominator that delayed most of the those fights seems to be Bob Arum being really hard to negotiate. For example, the Wilder/Fury rematch was basically a done deal until Uncle Bob stepped in and killed it.