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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #41
    Originally posted by Phenom
    This is not amateur boxing you're not in a month long tournament in competition means when you sign the contract that's why BJS wasn't allowed a boxing license in the states

    UKAD allow the use of a lot of banned substance all year round and claim they have a year round testing
    UKAD test all UK athletes. They aren't going to change the rules just for boxing. They follow WADA rules, that's the standard. They do have year round random testing.

    US boxing has no mandatory testing at all.

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      #42
      UKAD is a joke. How long did they sit on Tyson Fury's failed test results?

      Year-round VADA testing like Canelo is doing is the way to go.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Phenom
        This is not amateur boxing you're not in a month long tournament in competition means when you sign the contract that's why BJS wasn't allowed a boxing license in the states

        UKAD allow the use of a lot of banned substance all year round and claim they have a year round testing
        In the UK that substance was allowed until the day before the fight. Look it up its been reported on constantly.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          UKAD test all UK athletes. They aren't going to change the rules just for boxing. They follow WADA rules, that's the standard.

          US boxing has no mandatory testing at all.
          WADA rules are followed by USADA and VADA only UKAD considers in competition to be the day of the fight so basically it's a joke when it comes to boxing or other sports where you're in competition 2 or 3 days out of 365 days according to UKAD

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          • Phenom
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            #45
            Originally posted by kushking
            In the UK that substance was allowed until the day before the fight. Look it up its been reported on constantly.
            It's a ban substance under WADA full stop that's just a loophole in the UK

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              #46
              Originally posted by Phenom
              WADA rules are followed by USADA and VADA only UKAD considers in competition to be the day of the fight so basically it's a joke when it comes to boxing or other sports where you're in competition 2 or 3 days out of 365 days according to UKAD
              Nonsense. They follow WADA rules. VADA have their own rules. USADA follow the same rules as UKAD.

              You're ****ting on UKAD, when your own country has ZERO mandatory random testing for pro fighters. Fighters can juice as much as they want in the US with no risk at all.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Nonsense. They follow WADA rules. VADA have their own rules. USADA follow the same rules as UKAD.

                You're ****ting on UKAD, when your own country has ZERO mandatory random testing for pro fighters. Fighters can juice as much as they want in the US with no risk at all.
                VADA fighters aka champs in the US cannot juice as you say,yr rd vada changed that. Thats how millers ****** ass got caught eventually,VADA picks up a single molecule of peds,although theres been countless athletes who've gotten screwed by VADAs contradicting policies & infintisemal amounts counting as positives even if its a drug found in food & that has no the****utic value. In BOTH the USA & UK/EU athletes can legally dope by claiming a therapuetic use exemption,thats why Serena ****** sisters & mostly ALL Olympic athletes are legally allowed to take amphetamines because they conveniently all supposedly have adhd. They all claim to have adhd because they will be allowed to take stimulants 4 life. When the usa/uk olympics teams got hacked all their cheating leaked out.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kushking
                  VADA fighters aka champs in the US cannot juice as you say,yr rd vada changed that. Thats how millers ****** ass got caught eventually,VADA picks up a single molecule of peds,although theres been countless athletes who've gotten screwed by VADAs contradicting policies & infintisemal amounts counting as positives even if its a drug found in food & that has no the****utic value. In BOTH the USA & UK/EU athletes can legally dope by claiming a therapuetic use exemption,thats why Serena ****** sisters & mostly ALL Olympic athletes are legally allowed to take amphetamines because they conveniently all supposedly have adhd. They all claim to have adhd because they will be allowed to take stimulants 4 life. When the usa/uk olympics teams got hacked all their cheating leaked out.
                  VADA is voluntary. US fighters don't have to do VADA testing. They can refuse like Miller did.


                  UKAD is mandatory.


                  US fighters can juice as much as they want and refuse VADA like Miller did prior to signing for Joshua.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    It's a ban substance under WADA full stop that's just a loophole in the UK
                    Wrong.


                    Oxilofrine is on the in-competition list.

                    https://www.wada-ama.org/en/content/...ion/stimulants

                    In-Competition defined by WADA themselves.

                    "In-Competition: Unless provided otherwise in the rules of an International
                    Federation or the ruling body of the Event in question, “In-Competition”
                    means the period commencing twelve hours before a Competition in which
                    the Athlete is scheduled to participate through the end of such Competition

                    and the Sample collection process related to such Competition.
                    [Comment: An International Federation or ruling body for an Event may
                    establish an "In-Competition" period that is different than the Event Period."

                    https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...I-Final-EN.pdf



                    Want to keep lying?

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                    • Phenom
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Nonsense. They follow WADA rules. VADA have their own rules. USADA follow the same rules as UKAD.

                      You're ****ting on UKAD, when your own country has ZERO mandatory random testing for pro fighters. Fighters can juice as much as they want in the US with no risk at all.

                      VADA uses WADA prohibited list they use their labs and test for the same things

                      For the 2nd part read my 1st post I said I agree there needs to be a nationwide overseeing commission for all combat sports in the US that supersede local commissions

                      And yes local commissions drug testing in the states are a joke same as UKAD

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