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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by Phenom
    They have prohibited PED in competition list which basically means day of the fight that's why BJS wasn't even suspended in uk

    A lot of UKAD failed tests are after the event already happened you can do whatever you want in training camp
    So they aren't doing much OST pre-fight or its not very extensive if they are or ???

    But yea if thats correct that they are catching a lot or maybe most in the post-fight testing thats a sign something is lacking somewhere with the OST angle cuz it just stands to reason its more likely to catch any particular guy on the 359-364 days they aren't fighting than the 1 to 6 days each year they are fighting.

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    • Jkp
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      #22
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas
      Why not?

      Legit question I'm not super familiar with how the UKAD operates.
      Hughie Fury and Tyson got caught with steroids, and literally just ignored UKADs findings and carried on boxing.

      Shows how little power and reputation UKAD have.

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      • TreJac
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        #23
        Originally posted by Nehnenqui
        This. Hearn is just jabbing U.S. boxing because he hasn’t done too well here.
        Dispite what you feel towards Hearn, he is absolutely right! Over 50% of our top fights are cheating and most are getting away with it!

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        • Phenom
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          #24
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas
          So they aren't doing much OST pre-fight or its not very extensive if they are or ???

          But yea if thats correct that they are catching a lot or maybe most in the post-fight testing thats a sign something is lacking somewhere with the OST angle cuz it just stands to reason its more likely to catch any particular guy on the 359-364 days they aren't fighting than the 1 to 6 days each year they are fighting.
          I don't know how often they test before the event Im sure is not anywhere close to VADA but they have a rule of prohibited drugs in competition so if Andrade v Saunders was in London the fight wouldn't have been cancelled because UKAD consider in competition the day of the fight

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          • Nehnenqui
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            #25
            Originally posted by TreJac
            Dispite what you feel towards Hearn, he is absolutely right! Over 50% of our top fights are cheating and most are getting away with it!
            I don’t dislike him, I dig some of what he’s doing with DAZN like the Estrada vs. Rungvisai II card tomorrow.

            And yeah there is a P.E.D. issue in American boxing, but as the other dude stated, U.K. boxing is not clean like Hearn implies, they just have horrible testing.

            Saunders and Fury getting busted over here speaks volumes about how clean the U.K. is.

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            • DougalDylan
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              #26
              They catch loads of people just ask Eric Molina who was fighting for the WBC with no issues.

              They issue large bans , used to be life until the European commision of human rights out lawed life bans.

              Originally posted by Jkp
              UKAD dont catch anyone, because they are awful at what they do, not because UK is so clean.
              UKAD are also close to bankrupt and probably only survive on bribe money.
              This guy did every PED possible, didnt even try to hide it, and they couldnt catch him for 6 years of testing.



              They are a joke. There is a good reason why AJ uses them.

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              • DougalDylan
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                #27
                Originally posted by Jkp
                Hughie Fury and Tyson got caught with steroids, and literally just ignored UKADs findings and carried on boxing.

                Shows how little power and reputation UKAD have.
                Fury case was a mess but he was actually banned for boxing for years. Browne and others failed after him then came back and were boxing whilst he was out.

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                • Oldskoolg
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Nehnenqui
                  This. Hearn is just jabbing U.S. boxing because he hasn’t done too well here.
                  He constantly complains about the USA and is market. I don’t get why he is here if he hates it so much....go home then

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                  • Oldskoolg
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Nehnenqui
                    I don’t dislike him, I dig some of what he’s doing with DAZN like the Estrada vs. Rungvisai II card tomorrow.

                    And yeah there is a P.E.D. issue in American boxing, but as the other dude stated, U.K. boxing is not clean like Hearn implies, they just have horrible testing.

                    Saunders and Fury getting busted over here speaks volumes about how clean the U.K. is.
                    Both furies, Whyte, kid Galahad, saunders, etc etc.....”but but but america is bad doe”

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                    • wrecksracer
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                      #30
                      come on. the guys in the UK have been busted. BJ Saunders recently. And the UK is smaller than some of our States. It should be easier to regulate a small country.

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