Boxing Trade-Would You Make It

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Ok. I would do if I was Haymon because you can make the most wanted fight in the sport other than WIlder/AJ and you can continue to make big fights at WW for the next 2-4 years.

If I'm Arum I am worried that Haney and Tank maybe don't become as big as Crawford.

I’d trade for Crawford if I was Haymon I’d just try to offer other fighters besides Tank.

[Dip_Slide]

Both kids are unproven at the highest level where it counts so I wouldn't let someone like the best P4P fighter in the world just go in trade for these guys.

[Scipio2009]

Pretend you are Bob Arum or Al Haymon. You are presented with the following trade offer:

Devin Haney and Gervonta Davis for Terrance Crawford

The trade IMO makes things MUCH better for us as fans. Gives us potentially great fights on both sides.

If I'm Haymon I have to make this trade. If I'm Bob, I don't think I would.

What would you do?

It all depends on what you think the parties could be worth. Terence Crawford is a good tighter who is already 31 and isn't much of a draw or personality in his own right; Davis and Haney are both really good prospects/contenders who could turn out to be superstars in the next 3-4 years if everything breaks right.

Risk reward on both sides, tbh. If you're Haymon, do you give up two possible stars to get Terence Crawford (a good fighter at about the potential star level of Shawn Porter, who you can still keep mixed in with good fights under the possible superstars in Errol, Danny, and maybe still Keith)? Possibly.

If you're Top Rank, do you give up a blue chip fighter to roll the dice on two fighters who you can throw into your tub and end up with a star in 3 years (Haney, Lomachenko, Lopez, Davis walk into a box-off, and Lopez or Haney end up clearing the field; Haney's instinct to control his own business likely puts Lopez forward as the hope to clear out)? Possibly.

[chrisJS]

I think Haney will be excellent but I'm not sold he'll be as popular as Crawford or as good as him. I'd be taking a huge risk there and I wouldn't take Davis because I don't think the kid wants the tough fights like Lomachenko and I don't think he's headed down the right path anyway. I think his potential is fairly minimal so I'd need something much sweeter alongside Haney to tempt me somewhat.

[BigZ44]

Oh I got some trades for you.

Crawford, Horn and Adames to PBC for Marcus Browne, GRJ, Tank Davis, Mario Barrios, Robert Easter and King Tug

Bivol and Scott Quigg to TR for Ancajas, Rob Brant, Navarrete and Ito

Khan, Brook, Whyte and Jessie Vargas to PBC for Mall Charlo, LSC, Barthelemy, Brandon Figueroa and Mares

[Scipio2009]

I think you hit the nail on the head of the main trade I'd make.

Tank, Marcus Browne, Badou Jack & a fighter to be named later (PBC side) for Bud (TR side). Can make Tank vs Loma & Teofimo on the TR side, Browne & Jack make some decent to good 175 fights over there + some misc. fights with the guy that gets decided upon later or you just grab prospect you can grow like Efe maybe & you can make a bunch of fun high level fights with Bud on the PBC side.

Maybe trade Mall (PBC side) for Whyte (Matchroom side). Mall is the missing guy for Matchroom at 160 & Whyte makes PBC's HW roster a lil sexier & you can make fights with Wilder, Breazeale & Ortiz for sure that should hold some solid appeal.

Lol. Bud isn't worth anywhere near that.

[bandeat]

Tank has a potential to be as much of a Star - You see in Crawford.
For me, I'll make the trade Crawford for Davis.

Davis needs to be managed well and has many years ahead of him, while Crawford doesn't have that much ahead.

I also believe that Tank will make it bigger than Crawford when he get to that stage if his career

[Eff Pandas]

Lol. Bud isn't worth anywhere near that.

He's either the 1st or 2nd best guy in probably the 1st or 2nd most popular division & can have huge fights in his prime vs the likes of Manny, Thurman, Spence & Porter to potentially be the biggest name in the game at the end of that journey if he wins, but more likely some decent 300k-500k ppv draw who people have a favorable opinion of to highly respect cuz he did solid to great vs the 4 peers he has in the division.

And on the other side:

I love Jack, but he's not going anywhere very far from here out. He does still have some caliber of name value doe.

Browne is better than many given him credit for but he's a also ran-ish guy vs the tip top guys at 175 at the end of the day I feel like.

Tank is talented but a lil guy who's not got a ceiling in any division with much mainstream attention for him to ever get THAT big in boxing. Plus he's moderate to high risk to go south at some point for out of the ring dumb sh^t so he could burn TR on the deal ultimately cuz he's the main value of the trade.

I think its a solid trade with value for both sides.

[Jsmooth9876]

Or maybe these 2 cacksuckers can just find a way to work together instead

[Scipio2009]

He's either the 1st or 2nd best guy in probably the 1st or 2nd most popular division & can have huge fights in his prime vs the likes of Manny, Thurman, Spence & Porter to potentially be the biggest name in the game at the end of that journey if he wins, but more likely some decent 300k-500k ppv draw who people have a favorable opinion of to highly respect cuz he did solid to great vs the 4 peers he has in the division.

And on the other side:

I love Jack, but he's not going anywhere very far from here out. He does still have some caliber of name value doe.

Browne is better than many given him credit for but he's a also ran-ish guy vs the tip top guys at 175 at the end of the day I feel like.

Tank is talented but a lil guy who's not got a ceiling in any division with much mainstream attention for him to ever get THAT big in boxing. Plus he's moderate to high risk to go south at some point for out of the ring dumb sh^t so he could burn TR on the deal ultimately cuz he's the main value of the trade.

I think its a solid trade with value for both sides.

I'm not arguing talent here, though; I'm simply making the money point here; 1) can you ever envision Terence Crawford selling out any venue at $1000-$50 and 2)can Crawford draw anything on PPV as the feature fighter.

Pacquiao, Spence Jr, Danny Garcia, and maybe Keith Thurman, of the current crop, all have that potential, to me anyway; Crawford and Shawn Porter, not so much.

Jack is finishing up, the risk/reward on Gervonta Davis is definitely real, but I think you're undercounting Marcus Browne in a big way (he needs to fight his way to a belt and hang on to it, but he's a tall/long guy, former US Olympian, born and raised in a part of NYC still looking for heroes, while also having that "Cops and Kids Teddy Atlas" feel good story).

10 out of 10 times, I take the two lotto tickets (Davis, Browne) and roll the dice, especially when I have Spence, Danny Garcia, and Thurman.