The Mosley-Mayweather Underestimation?

[STEELHEAD]

I recently made a thread asking about who would win a fight between a prime Floyd who fought Gatti vs a Prime Mosley at 140 and Ill say the same thing now that I said then.

Max Kellerman also use to say this all the time. He said alot of these Super Offensive fighters come along and people fall in love with them because they can just run through guys and kill them. Meanwhile there are other fighters who have the complete package but look boring and arent as spectacular so people think they arent that good. Then the fight eachother and everyone thinks fighter A will kill him because they are just so offensively explosive but 90% of the time they end up being exposed by the complete fighter.

This desribes Floyd vs Shane to a T. Shane will look so dominant against most guys but if he fights a elite complete fighter like Floyd then he will look totally different. Shane is all offense while Floyd is the Superior defensive fighter, is even faster then Shane, and has shown a much better ability to adjust in the ring.

Max said thats why guys flame out like Tyson, Mayorga, Shane, and so on. When they fight guys who can do more things then they look lost and exposed.

People see him kill Vargas and then they expect the same to happened against Floyd even though he is 10x faster then Vargas, would never get him by alot of clean punches, is the most accurate puncher in the game, has a much better chin then Vargas, and has shown he can adjust better then anyone in the game. It would look totally different for Shane and people will wonder how ludacris they were for thinking that Mosley will just run through Floyd.

Floyd would never get hit clean by a right handed fighter like Shane. He will block all his punches and he would land all day on Shane's non existent defense. Shane is a explosive puncher but Floyd is by far the more complete fighter and would give Shane so many problems, even with his lack of size.

People always discount how important defense is and we dont give guys enough respect for that. Its no coincedence that guys like Floyd, Toney, Winky, and Hopkins are so hard to beat. Its a different fight against those guys and no one will walk through them. If you have a superior defense then you always have the advantage. Floyd is the best and Shane has none. Floyd has seen speed like Shane but Shane has never fought anyone close to his speed. Shane would get hit alot in this fight and would get discouraged. Shane would also have trouble hitting Floyd cleanly just as he did against Winky & Vernon and that would also discourage him. He wont be a human punching bag like Vargas

you made some good point but i don't think you considered these.floydboys a natural lt welter. lets see if he can bring up his questionable power to 147.so he beat glass jaw judah without putting him down. mosley would be the biggest,strongest,maybe fastest boxer boyfloyd has fought yet. and floyd dont have the power to hurt him. not to say he couldnt win on points. and mosleys defense was good enough to make it a close one in winkyII and winky being much bigger and smarter than boyfloyd.mosleys a solid intelligent veteran that will give mayweather who has had an easy ride for quite awhile mucho trouble.

[moraleskospacisback]

you made some good point but i don't think you considered these.floydboys a natural lt welter. lets see if he can bring up his questionable power to 147.so he beat glass jaw judah without putting him down. mosley would be the biggest,strongest,maybe fastest boxer boyfloyd has fought yet. and floyd dont have the power to hurt him. not to say he couldnt win on points. and mosleys defense was good enough to make it a close one in winkyII and winky being much bigger and smarter than boyfloyd.mosleys a solid intelligent veteran that will give mayweather who has had an easy ride for quite awhile mucho trouble.

how can u say winky is smarter then floyd? No one can say that, nor could anyway say Floyd is smarter then winky, there 2 different fighters who think differently and have different styles, and mosleys defense isnt what made the fight wit winky closer then the first one, it was winky tryin to be more exciting, it had nothin to do wit mosley. And if u think floyd doesnt have power, fine, but an accumulation of accurate sharp punishment will put down the toughest of chins, mosley gets discouraged quick and will lose his composure and get schooled, IF HE EVER DECIDES TO FIGHT FLOYD AND STOP BEING A *****!!! We shouldnt even be talkin about this fight when mosley dont want no part of floyd...

[The Texican]

I feel u, just like people got carried away wit de la hoya beatin the **** out of mayorga, i mite have got a lil carried away 2 wit that lol...but on the real neither mosley or de la hoya is ****in wit floyd AT 147, at 154 They both have a chance against floyd but theyd still be the underdogs, ive said in the past that oscar has a good chance at 154 and i think could win but thats only cause thats to much weight for floyd to move up so quickly, he just moved to 147 a couple fights ago and hasnt really fought a REAL WELTERWEIGHT, so it be a lot to deal wit, but I honestly dont think no one can beat Floyd except winky wright.

WHAT ABOUT AT A CATCH WIEGHT OF 150LBS? WHAT THEN?

[jgisbc]

i agree max kellerman is the **** and brian kenney well he knows somewhat of the crap he talks but nowhere near the knowledge and respect kellerman showed.
i miss him