Is Crawford screwed with Top Rank?

[Richard G]

With Crawford on contract there is going to be $ pressure on Arum to get fights with public appeal so I can't see any other promoters in effect helping Arum with their fighters. If the fights don't pay then Arum may not be able to pay Crawford which would constitute a breach of contract and Crawford would be free.

[New England]

Spence can keep fighting midgets and thump his chest for old guys like pac fight Thurman and or porter then go up to 154 and his legacy will be toast .Great fighter but dodged the biggest challenge of his career.Unlike what people say here a fighter has a huge say in who he fights because at the end of his contract he can play the free agent card.History does not accept the reason I didn’t fight bud was because his promoter was mean to mine.

no he f#cking doesn't. fighters who go against al haymon have had their careers ruined. remember andre dirrell? oh you don't?


what do you want him to do, hold a gun to al's hand and tell him to risk his cash cow who he invested in for years? go sign with bob arum for his one potential opponent?



fighters don't fight to please you. they don't. they get big, big f#cking checks. it's an amount of money that you surely don't understand. and to make that money they take punches to the head and vital organs and it takes YEARS off of their lives.


you can straight up f#Ck off if you think spence is going to shoot himself in the foot and **** up the earnings that he's worked for since he was an amateur fighting for no money at all - just to f#cking please you!

[New England]

With Crawford on contract there is going to be $ pressure on Arum to get fights with public appeal so I can't see any other promoters in effect helping Arum with their fighters. If the fights don't pay then Arum may not be able to pay Crawford which would constitute a breach of contract and Crawford would be free.

top rank has ungodly cash flow. they've been in business since 1973. they'd take a loss on crawford to keep him around. t hey've probaly done it already [2x] on his pay per views. they won't have problems writing the checks, they'll just be in the red. happens all the time.


but the rest of your post is spot on. arum is basically looking for a handout. spence is a haytmon fighter, who he built up from an olympian. haymon signed pacquiao for this moment. he's not going to hand him over to arum unless they are making floyd and manny money, or at least AJ money or canelo money.


and i honestly think they can. these two have a style that will keep them prime for a couple more years. if the money gets so big that they've got to fight they will fight.

[Longhaul]

no he f#cking doesn't. fighters who go against al haymon have had their careers ruined. remember andre dirrell? oh you don't?


what do you want him to do, hold a gun to al's hand and tell him to risk his cash cow who he invested in for years? go sign with bob arum for his one potential opponent?



fighters don't fight to please you. they don't. they get big, big f#cking checks. it's an amount of money that you surely don't understand. and to make that money they take punches to the head and vital organs and it takes YEARS off of their lives.


you can straight up f#Ck off if you think spence is going to shoot himself in the foot and **** up the earnings that he's worked for since he was an amateur fighting for no money at all - just to f#cking please you!

Fighters have done it in the past and you bring up Andre a complete ****ing idiot like yourself.If Spence walked after his contract DAZN or anybody would hit him with cash and big al could do **** about it.You just made my point the ****ing Moran you are and the man chowder eating disciple of Haymon that he’s bad for boxing and runs a protection racket for fighters Davis Spence ect.I believe he wrote the guidelines for the federal witness protection.Go idolize this piece of **** and once he gives you recognition he will tattoo a ****** on your mouth like he does with all of his disciples.

[Longhaul]

I don’t fuc&ing idolize promoters I’m a fan and want the best fight.Try having a boxing conversation about fights without bringing up your ass backwards **** feelings for a promoter.Let me know England when al gives you your promotion and tattoos a vag$na on your mouth you can post the pic you ball sucking promoter groupie.

[blue_dolphin]

the ones screwed are the fans. once again we miss out on two prime elites clashing and apparently some mofos out there are happy about this

boxing is the most frustrating sport to be a fan of when u have other so called "fans" in support of the best fight NOT happening

******ed ass mofos

[Motorcity Cobra]

top rank has ungodly cash flow. they've been in business since 1973. they'd take a loss on crawford to keep him around. t hey've probaly done it already [2x] on his pay per views. they won't have problems writing the checks, they'll just be in the red. happens all the time.

So why wouldn't he pay the $20 million Manny wanted for the Crawford fight?

Bob will spend money and lose short term while setting up a bigger fight. He's not going to do it long-term. There is not bigger fight to set up for Crawford. He doesn't have anything at 154 either. Unless Crawford jumps up to 160 and fights Canelo. There's not return on his investment. His PPV, with the backing of ESPN just did 150k

[Motorcity Cobra]

I don’t fuc&ing idolize promoters I’m a fan and want the best fight.Try having a boxing conversation about fights without bringing up your ass backwards **** feelings for a promoter.Let me know England when al gives you your promotion and tattoos a vag$na on your mouth you can post the pic you ball sucking promoter groupie.

Would a win over Porter be Bud's best win?

[Longhaul]

Would a win over Porter be Bud's best win?

What does that got to do with Spence fighting the best opponent available.Motor shi$ty Haymon ball sucking ****.You are another promoter groupie who is upset because uncle bob in your prior words on another thread said we need black media coverage because Arum is trying to bring a black man to one knee all this promoter and race baiting bull**** because some fans had the audacity to say wouldn’t that be cool if the two best welterweight fought nothing more .Take your race baiting promoter ball worship over to new England’s house I heard he’s a pillow biter.

[Motorcity Cobra]

What does that got to do with Spence fighting the best opponent available.Motor shi$ty Haymon ball sucking ****.You are another promoter groupie who is upset because uncle bob in your prior words on another thread said we need black media coverage because Arum is trying to bring a black man to one knee all this promoter and race baiting bull**** because some fans had the audacity to say wouldn’t that be cool if the two best welterweight fought nothing more .Take your race baiting promoter ball worship over to new England’s house I heard he’s a pillow biter.

Yea man. Bob also said let the blacks and Mexicans fight and we'll (whites and ***s) will collect the money.

One constant about boxing, with the exceeption of King's short run, it has always been whites (italians mobs included) and ***s (including Arum) exploiting black and latino fighters. So yea, I'll root for a black man to make sure black and latino fighters aren't being exploited.