Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Turned Down $5M, Asked For $10M To Fight Joshua 6/1

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #31
    Originally posted by techliam
    I don’t agree, as Miller is a fairly unknown quantity which is easier to hype. But I think it’s irrelevent anyway.

    Even if you feel the offer is a little low as a matter of academics, in reality that is a solid offer of a 5 million dollar payday, against the no.1 of the division for 3/4 belts. A rematch would net him well north of 10 million.

    I can’t see any justification at all, especially considering what he was paid vs Wilder
    If Hearn hopes to save this card with a compelling main event then Luis Ortiz is his only hope.

    Otherwise he will have to resort to complete unknowns like Michael Hunter.

    Just pay the man what you were going to pay Miller and let's go. It's already in the budget.

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      #32
      Originally posted by MPX309
      The one that he didn't win? lol
      Yeah, that one. He got a huge hand from the audience when he fought Cojanu, his fight immediately after the Wilder fight. If you think winning a fight is the only way to raise one's stock then you are mistaken. What are you, Floyd Mayweather?

      He showed heart, boxing ability, and power in the fight with Wilder. Came closer to beating him than anyone else - Until Fury was robbed of a clear 12 round decision.

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        #33
        Man why does everyone in the heavyweight division have to ruin everything so much?

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          #34
          $5 million was a lowball offer? ****ing hell. Clearly did not want the fight.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            no he doesn’t because he is not a NY like miller who would attract his own crowd and would drum up a big promotion....Ortiz is Cuban is over 40 and was Joey by wilder....why does Joshua have to pay ten times over the odds than what wilder paid him... it’s ridiculous ducking
            Miller's really gonna pack the fans in!

            HAHAHAHA.

            New York knows and respects Ortiz ever since his battle with Wilder. Big Baby is a big nobody.

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              #36
              ... and so Ortiz retires with no money, tbh...

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                #37
                Originally posted by chepboxingking
                Wow, this is a solid offer. They were ****** to turn it down. Not only do you get $5mil but you're going to compete for 3 titles. Smh. He needs better people around him advising him
                I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ortiz, IF he get the Wilder rematch will get NO MORE than 1.5/2 mill.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  yup...but the hearn buttboys will run around saying "hearn offered x amount of times his biggest payday" and run around repeating it over and over

                  Theres a thing called a market price...and hearn set it...6.5 for miller than Ortiz is worth at least every penny of that

                  hes not worth more..or 10 million

                  but hes worth at least 6.5....it doesn't matter what Ortiz previous high payday is...doesn't matter AT ALL.....hearn set the market price and then lowballed
                  You dont discredit an argument by mocking it, that’s losing an argument 101

                  This market price theory is interesting, but not fully padded out, probably to your own benefit.

                  If this is theory is true, then here are the qualifications you need to mention also:

                  Miller isn’t worth 6.5 million. His pay reflects the lack of opponents available for Joshua at the time, where Joshua would be criticised for taking in weak opponents.

                  Now, Ortiz isn’t worth 6.5 million. Joshua can fight any lower ranked fighter and would not receive criticism, because it’s not his fault Miller failed the tests. The offer from Hearn is actually fairly high considering they do not need to fight the supposed ‘boogeyman’

                  Your argument does not fit your conclusion

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The plunger man
                    no he doesn’t because he is not a NY like miller who would attract his own crowd and would drum up a big promotion....Ortiz is Cuban is over 40 and was Joey by wilder....why does Joshua have to pay ten times over the odds than what wilder paid him... it’s ridiculous ducking
                    Good luck drawing American eyeballs to Joshua with Michael Hunter or Manuel Charr or Junior Fa.

                    Luis Ortiz is the only top class heavyweight available that will give the event a big fight feel.

                    It doesn't have to be $10 million but he does deserve what Miller would have gotten.

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                    • Madison Boxing
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                      #40
                      he could have set himself up for life with that payday. hes probably not going to get another one at his age. he got offered 10x his best career payday, and hes crying about being lowballed. common sense tells me he's taking something and he knows he will fail a test, cause even if he doesnt think he can beat joshua i dont see why he wouldnt get knocked out for that sort of payday.

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