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  • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
    Finkel said, finkel said...sounds a lot like Hearn said, Hearn said...

    Like I said, they flat out rejected the offer and said it was because they wanted to know what aj was getting...don’t try to make it into something it isn’t.



    There’s no doubt in my mind they don’t want to fight Deontay Wilder,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News.

    “If they did, they wouldn’t have sent a contract with more impediments in it than the first time. I mean, they don’t even have their own lies together right now.

    “Joshua said he’d send a signed contract that removed all impediments and that it would be signed by him, but the contract is not even signed by him – it’s signed by Eddie Hearn. Barry (Hearn) also sent a tweet out yesterday stating the contract was signed by ‘AJ’ but it’s not. And…added to that, they have now put more blocks on the rematch clause than before.

    “In the original contract for a fight in 2018, Deontay rejected it because of the rematch clause only being in place for Joshua. Now, they’ve added that a rematch won’t take place if it’s a draw. I mean, there has to be a rematch if there’s a draw, they don’t even have their own story straight!

    He continued: “The bottom line is, they don’t want to make the fight. They didn’t want to make it in September, and they don’t want to make it now – for April. If they did, they would have changed the things (Deontay was adverse to in the original contract) like Joshua said they would.

    “Obviously, whether Joshua is afraid…or they are afraid, they are fooling the public regarding this fight. They are not looking to fight Deontay Wilder on April 13th.

    “They are lying, they don’t want to fight April 13th or they wouldn’t have sent the contract the way they did.

    “The fact is, they sent a contract worse than before and left in the things Deontay wanted changed. They have no desire to fight on April 13 whatsoever and they keep telling the public lies.
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    • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
      There’s no doubt in my mind they don’t want to fight Deontay Wilder,” Finkel exclusively told World Boxing News.

      “If they did, they wouldn’t have sent a contract with more impediments in it than the first time. I mean, they don’t even have their own lies together right now.

      “Joshua said he’d send a signed contract that removed all impediments and that it would be signed by him, but the contract is not even signed by him – it’s signed by Eddie Hearn. Barry (Hearn) also sent a tweet out yesterday stating the contract was signed by ‘AJ’ but it’s not. And…added to that, they have now put more blocks on the rematch clause than before.

      “In the original contract for a fight in 2018, Deontay rejected it because of the rematch clause only being in place for Joshua. Now, they’ve added that a rematch won’t take place if it’s a draw. I mean, there has to be a rematch if there’s a draw, they don’t even have their own story straight!

      He continued: “The bottom line is, they don’t want to make the fight. They didn’t want to make it in September, and they don’t want to make it now – for April. If they did, they would have changed the things (Deontay was adverse to in the original contract) like Joshua said they would.

      “Obviously, whether Joshua is afraid…or they are afraid, they are fooling the public regarding this fight. They are not looking to fight Deontay Wilder on April 13th.

      “They are lying, they don’t want to fight April 13th or they wouldn’t have sent the contract the way they did.

      “The fact is, they sent a contract worse than before and left in the things Deontay wanted changed. They have no desire to fight on April 13 whatsoever and they keep telling the public lies.
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      I thought we were talking about the dazn offer...you went back to last year I see. We’re way past that. You don’t like to discuss the current situation cuz wilder comes off as the guy who’s avoiding the fight.

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      • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
        I thought we were talking about the dazn offer...you went back to last year I see. We’re way past that. You don’t like to discuss the current situation cuz wilder comes off as the guy who’s avoiding the fight.



        a boxing negotiation is a sequence of events

        events that occur in a timeline

        a timeline..... has a start, and a finish

        a timeline does not move backwards, only forwards

        an event within that timeline will not occur without the preceding event

        " forgetting " about the preceding event is impossible, childish, and futile

        hope that helped

        when it became obvious that Joshua was avoiding that fight, they moved on

        but, you..... have not moved on

        Joshua avoided that fight..... you need to man up, and deal with it

        denial is not a river in Africa

        you know whats up son..... so your excuses are amusing, and do not paint your character in good light

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        • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
          I thought we were talking about the dazn offer...you went back to last year I see. We’re way past that. You don’t like to discuss the current situation cuz wilder comes off as the guy who’s avoiding the fight.


          Haymon said it would be more profitable to make their own path

          Espinoza said it would be more profitable to make their own path

          Finkle said it would be more profitable to make their own path

          Arum said it would be more profitable to make their own path

          even Hearn admitted, that Wilder will possibly make more money taking his own path

          but you..... you cannot seem to process the fact that.....

          1) AJ demanded 50m, got offered $50m ..... still refused to fight
          2) AJ lowballed Wilder $12m, then ran off to fight Povetkin
          3) AJ lowballed Wilder $15m ..... shat himself when Wilder accepted ..... refused to supply a date and signature on the contract
          4) NONE of the above events are the actions of a party who want to fight

          you need to grow up and deal with the fact that because Wilder made every effort to make that fight last year..... and because Haymon, Espinoza, Finkle, Arum, and even Hearn himself, said that Wilder's career will be better served if they make their own path and revisit Joshua down the line..... that Joshua is looking like a blatant duck right now

          all the brits are saying it..... Khan, Froch, Bellew, Haye, Warren, etc

          grow up

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          • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            a boxing negotiation is a sequence of events

            events that occur in a timeline

            a timeline..... has a start, and a finish

            a timeline does not move backwards, only forwards

            an event within that timeline will not occur without the preceding event

            " forgetting " about the preceding event is impossible, childish, and futile

            hope that helped

            when it became obvious that Joshua was avoiding that fight, they moved on

            but, you..... have not moved on

            Joshua avoided that fight..... you need to man up, and deal with it

            denial is not a river in Africa

            you know whats up son..... so your excuses are amusing, and do not paint your character in good light
            lol...ok. I guess the "timeline" conveniently finishes before wilder turns down the fight and backtracks on his 50/50 doe.

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            • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              Haymon said it would be more profitable to make their own path

              Espinoza said it would be more profitable to make their own path

              Finkle said it would be more profitable to make their own path

              Arum said it would be more profitable to make their own path

              even Hearn admitted, that Wilder will possibly make more money taking his own path

              but you..... you cannot seem to process the fact that.....

              1) AJ demanded 50m, got offered $50m ..... still refused to fight
              2) AJ lowballed Wilder $12m, then ran off to fight Povetkin
              3) AJ lowballed Wilder $15m ..... shat himself when Wilder accepted ..... refused to supply a date and signature on the contract
              4) NONE of the above events are the actions of a party who want to fight

              you need to grow up and deal with the fact that because Wilder made every effort to make that fight last year..... and because Haymon, Espinoza, Finkle, Arum, and even Hearn himself, said that Wilder's career will be better served if they make their own path and revisit Joshua down the line..... that Joshua is looking like a blatant duck right now

              all the brits are saying it..... Khan, Froch, Bellew, Haye, Warren, etc

              grow up
              it's convenient they made that call right when the offers started aligning with what they said they wanted...but not when they allegedly accepted the 12mil.

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              • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                lol...ok. I guess the "timeline" conveniently finishes before wilder turns down the fight and backtracks on his 50/50 doe.

                nope

                as CLEARLY indicated..... the ENTIRE timeline is made up of a series of events that are only relevant when viewed as a whole

                you are childishly, and dishonestly, electing to remove the earlier events from your memory..... because they fcuk your cool story bro..... I am viewing the entire timeline as a whole

                your convenient viewpoint only becomes a weak childish excuse when you "forget" the preceding events that led up to that situation..... when you are forced to confront the ENTIRE situation you have nothing, not even a weak excuse..... which is why you urgently NEEEEED to forget about the lying, lowballing, and pen-losing

                funny little excuse-making fella..... aren't ya ?

                btw, your childish trolling is amusing me..... and providing similar-minded posters with TONNES of ammunition which you will likely encounter in your future endeavors LMAO

                cut-n-paste away guys

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                • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                  it's convenient they made that call right when the offers started aligning with what they said they wanted...but not when they allegedly accepted the 12mil.


                  no, it is convenient that Hearn suddenly finds his pen as soon as Wilder signs to fight Breazeale

                  all of the UK commentators like Froch, Khan, Bellew, Lewis, Warren, Fury, Saunders, etc..... they all know that Joshua is ducking Wilder..... they all know that the only time Poshua Spice ever mentions Wilder, is immediately after Wilder signs to fight someone else

                  only AJ's dumb-cvnt fans haven't worked it out yet

                  no, wait..... you have worked it out..... which is why you need to crowbar the preceding events out of the official timeline in order to manufacture a weak childish excuse..... pretending anything that happened last year is not relevant to the current situation

                  keep up the goo..... ooops, I mean..... weak childish, work LMAO

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                  • fkn hilarious

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                    • You'll have a long time to wait No one out there has LEGITIMATELY beat him yet

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