Comments Thread For: BoxingScene Pound for Pound: April 2019 Update

[The D3vil]

Solid list other than having Canelo so high.

I agree results should matter, but most of the public and boxing journalists think he lost both fights to Golovkin and huge swaths of the public think he lost to Austin Trout & Erislandy Lara as well.

That's 5 losses (Mayweather) or "controversial" decisions.

Plus, he just popped positive for PEDs last year.

I agree official results should matter, but we should take how they came about into account as well.

I disagree with Mr. Rold, I feel that Errol Spence Jr. should be demoted after his pitiful performance vs. Mickey.

Terence displayed a masterful boxing exhibition against a man his own size, effortlessly dominating his rival like a true elite.

Spence won every single round by a wide margin.

How is that pitiful?

[MEXfistology]

This is a weak garbage list, lomachenko fought a euro bum for his last fight, how is he top 3 p4p, it's embarrassing.. Crawford beat a washed up Amir Khan, and that's the biggest name in his whole record..

[Fire4231]

Decent list but why is GGG on here? He just LOST to Canelo and is DUCKING all major contenders in his weight class.

Not to mention, he keeps fighting opponents who don’t deserve to fight a contender in the weight class. He doesn’t have a belt and he never moved up in weight?

Lol.... How in the hell is he on anyone’s P4P list? Is he even in the top 5 at the weight? Guess we will never know because he keeps ambushing cab drivers.

[thecomedian2]

I disagree with Mr. Rold, I feel that Errol Spence Jr. should be demoted after his pitiful performance vs. Mickey.

Terence displayed a masterful boxing exhibition against a man his own size, effortlessly dominating his rival like a true elite.

I completely agree, and how on earth Lomachenko is ahead of Canelo?

[thecomedian2]

Solid list other than having Canelo so high.

are you out of your ****ing mind? How on earth is Lomachenko ahead of Canelo? By defeating nobodies and getting bullied by Orlando Salido?

[TBear]

I understand some of the arguments on why a few of the fighters are that high but also I understand why the fighters are where they are on that list. With the understanding that p4p lists are subjective, I personally have no problem with that list.

[aboutfkntime]

Can somebody please run down Crawford last 4 victories and tell me why he should be number 1??!??!

he is number one because of " ceteris paribus "

which is the original criteria for P4P

nowadays, " P4P " is confused with " current ATG ".....

..... which is actually an oxymoron

ceteris paribus is..... " if all things were equal, who would win "

the " all things ", in boxing..... is weight..... so, TRUE P4P is based on style/skills/form..... nothing else..... not even resume'

resume' does count, because it adds that proven factor to what is a purely hypothetical debate..... but it most definitely is not essential for TRUE P4P consideration, because MANY unproven fighter have beaten great champions.....

P4P IS theoretical..... as-in, it is supposed to be theoretical..... so, P4P..... if ALL things were equal..... and both guys were naturally the same size (NOT moving up or down)..... I say that Crawford would win against all/most fighters in the world today..... including possibly even my boy Loma

I think Crawford could be too well-rounded, and have too tight a game, for the mercurial Lomachenko..... who would give him absolute fits all night long

wouldn't bet a dollar on it, but Crawford has the best argument because of style/skills/form..... which are the only 3 things that should count..... Loma is right there with him, and is right in that same argument

I have no issue with guys ranking Loma ahead of Crawford because they are both right there, but there are still question marks over both.....

but yea..... insisting upon resume, is demanding that someone paint you a picture..... rather than deciphering how the individual styles would mesh in a purely theoretical fight that will never happen anyway because of weight disparity

insisting upon resume is also wrong because triangle theories do not work in boxing

the problem comes down to two differing questions..... who would win, if all things were equal..... vs..... who has achieved the most within the current boxing landscape..... but they are two completely different questions..... Crawford is a TRUE P4P fighter, no question..... if all things were equal

[aboutfkntime]

I don't like the list. Canelo #3, after a PED pop and a hotly debated razor thin decision over Golovkin? Spence ahead of Rungvisai, who has the best resume of any P4P fighter? Golovkin at 7.. while Canelo at 3? There is no logical argument why they're not back to back. Inoue at 7.. uh. He's not proven enough. I don't see it. LSC has been on BoxingScene's P4P list, but I disagree with it. He lost against Frampton, barely avenged the defeat, then has fought nobody since.

How about Gvozdyk and Callum Smith, who rule their divisions and have good resumes?

same thing as Crawford..... style/skills/form

the fat red kid is a bad baaaaad man

he is clearly a better, more-skilled, more well-rounded, fighter..... than Golovkin

[aboutfkntime]

Really poor list. What has spence done to be so high and joshua isnt even on the list? Joshuas been just as dominant and has fought better ranked fighters. Fury has two of the best underdog performances by anyone in boxing and hes not on the list. Oh yeah, they are from the UK so it doesnt count. Oh and ggg loses a close decision officially in a fight most thought he won so he drops down to 7th.

same as Crawford and Canelo lol

style / skills / form

Spence is a bad baaaaad man..... they all are

[aboutfkntime]

P4P lists should be updated monthly based on latest performances of boxers just like in chess rankings!?

not if you have a clue

if you were right..... then your " rankings " shouldn't change much

guys can even lose, and not slip too much..... like Garcia and Golovkin

I picked Mayweather to be P4P #1 nearly two years before he was ranked..... and I did the same thing with Loma, I picked him to be a future P4P #1 (or close) over two years before he was ranked

it really was obvious with those guys