Prime for prime who wins in a fight between golovkin and martinez?

[Curtis Harper]

Golovkin KO's him.
Martinez had one good knockout over williams and every numbskull thinks he is the next terminator.......martinez wouod get KO'ed within 5 rounds by golovkin......thats why he ducked him for so long right ?

Who has GGG fought do you see beating a PRIME Marvella.

I bold ''prime'' because people are talking about the Margarito loss and a 38 year old Marvella

[satiev1]

Ehh, so did Pavlik, still lost to Martinez.

No he didn't. And that was a shot pavlik already. Hopkins ruined him. He went to 175 and down to 160 again. Wasn't the same. Either way pavlik is nothing special.

[satiev1]

Who has GGG fought do you see beating a PRIME Marvella.

I bold ''prime'' because people are talking about the Margarito loss and a 38 year old Marvella

prime Jacobs. Jacobs would put williams and pavlik in a coma. He went 12 rds in a draw against canelo p4p fighter 10 years younger than him. Something martinez could never do. He was struggling with euro level fighters at mw. And ggg never struggled against bums or was ever koed by the likes of margarito type opponents.

[Curtis Harper]

Strongly disagree. There's no one martinez beat that shows me he can even last 6 rds against ggg. When you get koed by margarito and draw with cintron. LOL.

OK.....I can see this being a yes/no contest, which I'm not a fan of. We see things differently.

[Curtis Harper]

prime Jacobs. Jacobs would put williams and pavlik in a coma. He went 12 rds in a draw against canelo p4p fighter 10 years younger than him. Something martinez could never do. He was struggling with euro level fighters at mw. And ggg never struggled against bums or was ever koed by the likes of margarito type opponents.

And I still see Marvella handling GGG with ease. His unorthodox attack would be a nightmare. You can have the last words.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Who has GGG fought do you see beating a PRIME Marvella.

I bold ''prime'' because people are talking about the Margarito loss and a 38 year old Marvella

Canelo and Jacobs, both would beat the best Martínez and are better than Williams and Pavlik .


Martínez only fought with 3 good names in his career

MARGARITO
WILLIAMS
PAVLIK

And lost with both of them.

[AKAcronym]

Here's how I see it.

Prime Martinez was always able to out-jab ortho fighters. Since that's GGG's only tool for keeping fighters with power off him (Canelo, Lemieux), he wouldn't be able to keep Martinez from landing. Martinez' pace is more consistent than Canelo's so he could fight for all of the round. Martinez would trade and GGG just doesn't move his head enough to avoid those awkward angle counters Martinez can throw.

All of that adds up to fast Martinez start with the jabs, a mid-fight surge with GGG scoring a KD, and then a late fight beatdown from Martinez and a UD a-la Pavlik.

Edit: to be fair this isn't a breakdown of a stoppage, as you asked. The man took Canelo bombs without getting dropped. Respect to GGG in that area. It would be doubtful that Martinez would get a KO outside of a monster PWill bomb.

I'll keep things mainly to bullet style points. Martinez isn't outjabbing Golovkin. Nobody hes fought has the jab of GGG. That hands down style won't play into his advantage, not to mention he is off balance a lot, not to mention his head being so far forward will lean right into G's right uppercut which he used to throw after a left hook, against southpaws of course. Martinez has a great pace, but so does G, especially prime G. And for the most part, Sergio throws mainly 1,2's with occasional hooks (granted it's been a long time since I've seen a fight of his so it's mainly what I remember). Canelo throws every punch great, including body work so it's going to make G think and hesitate more. Sergio didn't have the greatest body work from what I remember. Gennady used to have great body work which would definitely take away Sergios legs eventually. A younger G moved his head a lot better than older G so those awkward shots wouldn't land as much. There's probably more I'm forgetting but oh well. It's a fight I would've loved to see but I realize where their careers were at the time. Great fight regardless.

[Curtis Harper]

Canelo and Jacobs

I doubt any version of Danny would beat Prime Marvella. Nelo would be a tough one.

[AKAcronym]

GGG clearly has issues with movers. Unorthodox movers with power and excellent ring generalship and it spells a bad night for GGG.

In his 3 toughest fights, GGG only managed a flash kd vs Jacobs and Jacobs wasn't ever hurt. Nelo limited GGG to basically a jab.

Marvella would slowly bust up GGG and end him without having much trouble. Terrible match, style wise, for GGG.

Sergio has had trouble with lesser fighters than G so insinuating he ends him without much trouble is just dumb. Movers aren't a problem for G, unless we're talking about a not prime G which goes against the whole premise of the topic. Golovkin landed plenty of power punches so this whole thing of suddenly Golovkin becoming a jabber, which he's pretty much always been, isn't accurate. Did he jab more? Sure. He still landed power shots, with the better ones in the 2nd fight. Sergio was a great fighter who got away with a lot of things based on pure athleticism. I think G would eventually take that away. Just my take.

[Squ□redCircle34]

Chávez JR barely won the fight against Zbick , and a year after he fought Martínez.

Man, you can't talk with me about mexican boxing.

Chávez jR never had a prime, Martínez was lucky yo fight with a popular bum only because his name.

JR always was a sh.it, he barely won against Cuello, and Canelo destroyed Cuello easily and stopped him in 6.

Brian Vera deserved the win against JR.

JR looked like sh.it against Rubio

Man, that was not a good win.

And the catchweight was fair, Canelo gained 10 pounds, Jr only cutted 3.

And JR was in his best shape according to him and Don Nacho, he trained very well and a lot of people here in México were saying that Jr would beat Nelo.

Nelo never outboxed GGG in the first fight, Canelo has not an impressive footwork but he has a great defense, better than Martinez, Martínez was akward but always struggled with shots, was dropped a lot of times and took much risk and punishment.

And Canelo has an iron chin, the same shots than GGG landed on Nelo would be too much for Martínez

You keep
Bringing up irrelevant stuff to
the table!

Prime Chavez was a damn cruiserweight in which Prime Martínez fought and ended up losing his prime after the fight!

Canelo catch weight learned from Floyd , knew if he’d fought Jr at 168 it would’ve been a much tougher task but yet let Rocky Fielding fight at 168 for a paper title!

Ggg has the inferior foot speed, hand speed, accomplishments, and footwork!

Prime Maravilla would’ve landed 4 or 6 piece combos and circled away before ggg can say big drama show!

You know shît bout boxing, ggg lost to a career Jr middleweight who doesn’t have the punching power or foot speed of Martínez!

“Martínez decisions Golovkin”, would’ve been the headline for the fight