Just Being Honest, Both Crawford and Spence are overrated

[Idunnoshet]

GGG vs Canelo 1 & 2 were way more controversial and the majority of people had GGG winning. Danny vs Thurman & Danny vs Porter weren't nearly as controversial.

You didn't answer my question .

[UNBIASED BOXING]

But you weirdos think Lomachenko is the greatest. Linares is practically another Khan. Past prime and was knocked out numerous times. You guys pretend he was the greatest though. Got his ass whooped again in his second fight after Lomachenko and way more impressively than Lomachenko, LMAO.

Rigo was an old tiny midget coming up 2 weight divisions. You guys say the weight didn’t matter but then complain about Salido weight bullying Lomachenko, LMAO.

Gary Russell Jr. was ridiculed and torn apart by the Loma/GGG/Usyk fan base as a “TBA Killer” before he fought Lomachenko. After Lomachenko beat him you guys elevated Russell Jr. to an ATG. Russell Jr.’s best win is Jhonny Gonzalez, LMAO.

Jose Pedraza? GTFO.

Tatakhun, Rodriguez, Koasicha, Ramirez? LMAO

Marriaga moving up in weight and coming off of a loss? Lol

Martinez? Years after Mikey Garcia bodied him, lol.

Linares hadn't lost in almost 6 years, and was on a 13 win fight streak.

Cano is a bigger fighter than both, Lomachenko and Linares. Cano beat Herrera, gave a past-prime Mosley @ welterweight a close fight, and honestly got robbed against Malignaggi at 147.

No, he's not elite by any means, but Cano is an experienced guy at 140 & 147 lbs. who's given surprising results before.


Don't know how you are bringing up Rigo. That fight got offered to Rigo at 126. Rigo turned it down. Rigo started calling out Lomachenko 2 years later, and fans started bashing Lomachenko. Lomachenko got the fight made and easily won, and now the haters (such as yourself) proceed to bash the win.

Gary Russell Jr. is a good win. There's really no arguing that.

You forgot to mention Walters.

You're trying way too hard, but we all know you are biased against Lomachenko. No other reason to pick apart a guy's resume with 14 fights / 3 weight class championships.



Can y'all imagine, using an excuse to hate on a fighter because, "I'M SO MAD CAUSE EVERYONE CALLS HIM A GREAT FIGHTER, SO I'M GOING TO BASH HIM ON EVERY POST"


You just can't make these things up

[BoxingIsGreat]

But you weirdos think Lomachenko is the greatest. Linares is practically another Khan. Past prime and was knocked out numerous times. You guys pretend he was the greatest though. Got his ass whooped again in his second fight after Lomachenko and way more impressively than Lomachenko, LMAO.

Rigo was an old tiny midget coming up 2 weight divisions. You guys say the weight didn’t matter but then complain about Salido weight bullying Lomachenko, LMAO.

Gary Russell Jr. was ridiculed and torn apart by the Loma/GGG/Usyk fan base as a “TBA Killer” before he fought Lomachenko. After Lomachenko beat him you guys elevated Russell Jr. to an ATG. Russell Jr.’s best win is Jhonny Gonzalez, LMAO.

Jose Pedraza? GTFO.

Tatakhun, Rodriguez, Koasicha, Ramirez? LMAO

Marriaga moving up in weight and coming off of a loss? Lol

Martinez? Years after Mikey Garcia bodied him, lol.

Martinez is worst opponent to be proud of.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Linares hadn't lost in almost 6 years, and was on a 13 win fight streak.

Cano is a bigger fighter than both, Lomachenko and Linares. Cano beat Herrera, gave a past-prime Mosley @ welterweight a close fight, and honestly got robbed against Malignaggi at 147.

No, he's not elite by any means, but Cano is an experienced guy at 140 & 147 lbs. who's given surprising results before.


Don't know how you are bringing up Rigo. That fight got offered to Rigo at 126. Rigo turned it down. Rigo started calling out Lomachenko 2 years later, and fans started bashing Lomachenko. Lomachenko got the fight made and easily won, and now the haters (such as yourself) proceed to bash the win.

Gary Russell Jr. is a good win. There's really no arguing that.

You forgot to mention Walters.

You're trying way too hard, but we all know you are biased against Lomachenko. No other reason to pick apart a guy's resume with 14 fights / 3 weight class championships.



Can y'all imagine, using an excuse to hate on a fighter because, "I'M SO MAD CAUSE EVERYONE CALLS HIM A GREAT FIGHTER, SO I'M GOING TO BASH HIM ON EVERY POST"


You just can't make these things up

Walters is a one hit wonder, who never was and never became, and was proven a coward and heartless.

[Nehnenqui]

Linares hadn't lost in almost 6 years, and was on a 13 win fight streak.

Cano is a bigger fighter than both, Lomachenko and Linares. Cano beat Herrera, gave a past-prime Mosley @ welterweight a close fight, and honestly got robbed against Malignaggi at 147.

No, he's not elite by any means, but Cano is an experienced guy at 140 & 147 lbs. who's given surprising results before.


Don't know how you are bringing up Rigo. That fight got offered to Rigo at 126. Rigo turned it down. Rigo started calling out Lomachenko 2 years later, and fans started bashing Lomachenko. Lomachenko got the fight made and easily won, and now the haters (such as yourself) proceed to bash the win.

Gary Russell Jr. is a good win. There's really no arguing that.

You forgot to mention Walters.

You're trying way too hard, but we all know you are biased against Lomachenko. No other reason to pick apart a guy's resume with 14 fights / 3 weight class championships.



Can y'all imagine, using an excuse to hate on a fighter because, "I'M SO MAD CAUSE EVERYONE CALLS HIM A GREAT FIGHTER, SO I'M GOING TO BASH HIM ON EVERY POST"


You just can't make these things up

Who did Jorge Linares beat in that 13 fight win streak? Absolutely nobody. The only one worth a damn is probably Campbell.

Anyways, as I demonstrated, it’s quite easy to pick apart resumes.

I just love how you clowns are okay with picking apart the resumes of guys like Spence and Crawford but have a fit when it’s done to Lomachenko.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. 14 fights and you like to pretend he’s 20 years old and not 31.

Kosei Tanaka is an undefeated, 3 division champion in 13 fights, at 23 years old, yet I don’t see you Lomachenko/Golovkin/Usyk fans proclaiming him as the GOAT, lmao.

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Who did Jorge Linares beat in that 13 fight win streak? Absolutely nobody. The only one worth a damn is probably Campbell.

Anyways, as I demonstrated, it’s quite easy to pick apart resumes.

I just love how you clowns are okay with picking apart the resumes of guys like Spence and Crawford but have a fit when it’s done to Lomachenko.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know. 14 fights and you like to pretend he’s 20 years old and not 31.

Kosei Tanaka is an undefeated, 3 division champion in 13 fights, at 23 years old, yet I don’t see you Lomachenko/Golovkin/Usyk fans proclaiming him as the GOAT, lmao.

You are a ****ing moron. None of these are anywhere near the same comparisons.

#1 Nobody is calling Kosei Tanaka a "GOAT" or "P4P elite", because the belts he won weren't off fighters as good as your Nicholas Walters / Rigos / whatever.

#2 Errol Spence can be picked apart. He's been in one weight class, and he is obviously not a top 5 P4P fighter. Yeah, Usyk and Lomachenko are, there's no comparison. They have both done a lot more.

#3 Crawford is a top 3 P4P fighter. Try again.

Let me know when you are playing the color game in your ******ed fighter judgement.

[GhostofDempsey]

I agree they are somewhat untested. But Mikey is not a natural 130 fighter. He walks around at 165 and had to drain himself to make 135. It was still a mismatch though.

Part of the problem is that Thurman, Porter, and Danny don’t appear to be in any hurry to fight either Spence or Crawford.

[BoxingIsGreat]

This is how I rank top 3 best American boxers in order: Gervonta Davis, Errol Spence, Terence Crawford. Not P4P or any of that BS. Best US fighters. Before the Khan fight, Bud was #2.

[Curtis Harper]

They would have to fail to say they are overrated. Right now they look spectacular vs not so impressive opposition.

For me the jury is still out.

[strykr619]

Both are very talented but can we honestly say they are actually "proven"

Best names on Crawford's resume is

1.Khan(past his prime and has been knocked out numerous times)
2. Postol who was nothing special and was beaten by Josh Taylor
3. Indongo who Prograis stopped early than Crawford
4. Benavidez who was basically fighting on one damn leg

Best Names on Spence resume

1. Brook came down from 160 and took a beating from GGG
2. Mikey Garcia a natural 130 pounder who went up to 147 to fight the naturally bigger and stronger fighter. Mikey was a significant underdog.

All in all, Spence does have better names on his resume and I have no doubt that Brook and Mikey would've beat the Khan that Crawford has fought. But my god, if we had prime Floyd, Manny, Oscar, Tito, Vernon, Margarrito, and Mosley in this era, I have no doubt that these two would've been exposed already. Crawford gets hit too much and has yet to fight an A-level fighter. Spence is talented but he also has asterisk on his resume. right now, I do not know who comes out on top in this 147. Hopefully, if Thurman gets back to his old self he can make things interesting, but right now, the welterweight division is clearly the most overrated division in boxing.

WW is def weaker then it was the previous generation. Only one left now from that time is a 40 year old Pac who can make these current top tier WW work for their money still LOL.