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  • Boxing Logic
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    #211
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Good , major players have to start coming down on these guys , team Wilder, Haymon ,and Finkel the PBC affiliates are really watering down the sport.
    I agree, about time someone in power in boxing said something. This will go down as one of the most important political stands Arum has made his entire career. When they write the history of Arum's career in boxing, this may be looked back on as the beginning of something historical. No one else in boxing has had the balls to say it, that the prejudice WITHIN the sport's structure, during this era with Haymon, mostly only flows one way now, the opposite of in the past, and it's become acceptable for black boxers to simply tweet **** accusing Oscar of racism towards black boxers with zero proof, or repeatedly dismissing every one of the best non-black boxers to come into the sport. If you watch all the interviews with many of these PBC boxers, they all kind of say similar things, and it comes off at minimum as jealousy of many foreign boxers, but much of the time it comes off as if THEY are the ones viewing them in a racially tinged negative light, not the people rating them highly.

    It's become a major problem in boxing, and I don't think it will ever get better unless people like Arum talk about it in the media and start the public debate about it. Until then, most people wouldn't even feel comfortable debating it. This is Arum doing within boxing politics what Trump did within US politics, freeing up more space to actually talk about the truth and debate what is the truth and try to find the facts, instead of just being afraid to disagree with what's popular. That's why it might sound like I'm overselling it, but I really do think this is a historic stand within boxing that Arum is making, one that will be remembered when his career is over as much as most other things he has done.

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    • BoxingIsGreat
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      #212
      Originally posted by LegendSlayer
      I've seen boxing in primitive societies as well (3rd world countries) and it's more about control, unfortunately. They don't want their people to defect or turn pro, they keep their top amateurs there and try to weather them down. Yeah, 3rd world boxing...100 people sparring on 100'x100' concrete at once with two coaches looking, is 3rd world boxing.
      Third world countries aren't "primitive" societies. Some of them are cooler than your first world BS, because they still have a heart for humanity, unlike the society you are from.

      Poverty isn't the only criterion for backwardness. I loved living with those people you call "primitive" more, as a student, than all the gold in the Western world combined.

      Being tribal is backwardness at its worst.

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      • MC Hammer
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        #213
        Originally posted by AdonisCreed
        Ooooooohhhhhh boy! Arum turned this into a white and black situation! Just when you think everything is cool, calm and normal WHAM!! Race comes in to play and everyone gets pissed off lol
        He drew a color line and now Crawford and to a lesser extent Shakur are gonna look like his "tap dancing good boys" and will probably receive less black support. He better hope that these whites and Latinoes think that Crawford is "one of the good ones too" or he won't be getting any views. This'll end up laike a smaller version of supporting Frazier over Ali

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        • megas30
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          #214
          Arum is doing the same thing he did with Pac and Mayweather. How can you purposely create strife then want someone to negotiate with you in good faith? Arum is a piece of sh.it for this!

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          • megas30
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            #215
            Originally posted by Corelone
            You beat me to it. He should be more succinct considering the history and treatment of ***s. Spreading racial discontent, but crying anti Semitism.
            Arum is white. *** is not a race.

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            • stoggio
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              #216
              Senile Old Jackass

              Says the guy who is notorious for not promoting his black fighters.

              Now he out here playing the race card? Arum is a desperate old racist. Typical bob... been doing this **** for years. He always wants to be the star and he promotes by mentioning the people he keeps himself and his fighters away from.

              There is a reason all his fighters leave him and go on to bigger and better paydays.


              Crawford deserves more than this bull****.

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              • Mikedadon
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                #217
                Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                Calling him out is fair, but why go on that racist rant? Arum is clearly racist and is projecting his own racism onto others. I'm sure the "N" word flies out of his ass a lot. How does that help us fans?
                Bob has been working with black fighters and promoters since 1965 basically since ali I don't think he is racist just annoyed because al haymon has the upper hand on him and he cant do anything but make his harrange about how nobody will fight terrence.

                Bob is condescendent and pompous but he is correct that fight does not need to marinate like pac and may did because I mean look what we when that happen.

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                • Southpawology
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by megas30
                  Arum is white. *** is not a race.
                  Bob Arum is NOT white and ***s ARE A RACE. You can do DNA testing to see if someone is ***ish or not.

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                  • Sweet Jones
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by MC Hammer
                    He drew a color line and now Crawford and to a lesser extent Shakur are gonna look like his "tap dancing good boys" and will probably receive less black support. He better hope that these whites and Latinoes think that Crawford is "one of the good ones too" or he won't be getting any views. This'll end up laike a smaller version of supporting Frazier over Ali
                    Bingo.

                    He’s hurting 2 of his own fighters (Shakur, Bud) with their natural fan base.

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                    • Hanma.Yujiro
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                      #220
                      Crawford/Arum saying they want the fight.... after a short time Arum throwing malicious accusations to the Haymon side.

                      how can you seriously deal with a guy throwing mud even before the negotiation starts?

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