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  • pittapatta66
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    #21
    Originally posted by Joe Beamish
    Nobody is Leonard.
    Then who the fucc is Leonard? Frodo Baggins?

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    • chrisJS
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      #22
      Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
      Leonard lost to a lightweight bruh. Aint nothing special about that.

      What did Floyd do to Marquez? What did Spence do to Garcia? What did Crawford do to Gamboa?

      Leonard on the other hand got beat up by a guy coming up from two weight classes below.
      Duran was a good lightweight. If you are comparing Duran to those guys you really need to learn more. Duran also went on to be the Middleweight champion almost 10 years later. He was a little bit more special than Gamboa you know.

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      • chrisJS
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        #23
        Originally posted by OCPancho
        And you just conveniently forget that that lightweight was already a welterweight when he beat Leonard. And Duran weighed half a pound heavier than Leonard. And he happened to have two times the number wins Leonard had.
        And that he lost by 4 points total on the 3 cards in a 15 round fight.

        You forgot to mention that Marquez was a longtime featherweight who was only some 3 fights removed from 130 when he fought Mayweather in a catchweight fight where FLoyd failed to make the agreed limit.

        What did Leonard do to TOMMY HEARNS and AYUB KALULE ? Or Benitez ? All undefeated.
        I don’t think he forgot or left any of that off for convenience. I just don’t think he knew.

        You can always tell the folks who don’t pay any attention to history when they act like Duran simply bulked up overnight for Leonard. He’d had a half dozen or more fights to acclimate including a masterful shut out victory over a hall of famer to prepare for Leonard.

        It’s still the greatest win of the last 50 years arguably history period.

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        • TonyGe
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          #24
          Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
          Leonard lost to a lightweight bruh. Aint nothing special about that.

          What did Floyd do to Marquez? What did Spence do to Garcia? What did Crawford do to Gamboa?

          Leonard on the other hand got beat up by a guy coming up from two weight classes below.
          Duran was arguably the best lightweight ever. Duran had numerous fights as a Welterweight before the Leonard match. I personally thought Leonard was a media creation before I saw the fight.. Duran won that fight but it showed Leonard as a true warrior with heart, stamina and determination. Don't forget Leonard came back in the later rounds. He made a believer out of a lot of people. Comparing Crawford to Leonard is inappropriate to say the least..

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          • NachoMan
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            #25
            Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
            Leonard lost to a lightweight bruh. Aint nothing special about that.

            What did Floyd do to Marquez? What did Spence do to Garcia? What did Crawford do to Gamboa?

            Leonard on the other hand got beat up by a guy coming up from two weight classes below.
            You just exposed yourself forever as an ignorant casual with that comment. SRL didn't just lose to any old lightweight, but the greatest lightweight of all time and possibly one of the top ten P4P fighters of all time.
            Last edited by NachoMan; 04-19-2019, 08:49 AM.

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            • champion4ever
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              #26
              Bob says that about all of his fighters. He once compared Mayweather to Muhammad All, then he said Pacquiao was the best fighter he has ever seen and now he is comparing Terence Bud Crawford to Sugar Ray Leonard.

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              • NachoMan
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                #27
                Originally posted by Bestlefty
                Arum with his BS again. Crawford diesnt have the speed of SRL to begin with.
                Idk, I think Crawford's talent is on par with SRL, but there are, of course, style differences between the two. Bud is plenty fast, but he is just more economical with his punches and movement overall. Ray was a showman who made full use of his athleticism. He had plenty of substance, but also a ton of flash. I am a big SRL fan, but I think a mythical matchup between these two guys is a real pick'em fight. Bob is not disrespecting SRL by making comparisons between these guys at all. He's simply acknowledging the rare talent that both of these guys possess.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by chrisJS
                  I don’t think he forgot or left any of that off for convenience. I just don’t think he knew.

                  You can always tell the folks who don’t pay any attention to history when they act like Duran simply bulked up overnight for Leonard. He’d had a half dozen or more fights to acclimate including a masterful shut out victory over a hall of famer to prepare for Leonard.

                  It’s still the greatest win of the last 50 years arguably history period.
                  If the guy was already a welterweight then why defaq people act like Duran was some kind of God or sumn? That's like if Crawford beats Spence and people or Thurman and people start acting like he moved up from 135 straight to Spence.

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sledgeweather17
                    If the guy was already a welterweight then why defaq people act like Duran was some kind of God or sumn? That's like if Crawford beats Spence and people or Thurman and people start acting like he moved up from 135 straight to Spence.
                    But it's not though. It's clear Leonard is better than Thurman or Spence. Palamino is better than both of those guys too. Duran also smashed Buchanan and DeJesus at 135 and as much as I love Bud (he's my favorite fighter) he has never shared the ring with guys that caliber and to be honest won't even do that at 147 because the talent isn't there these days.

                    Just curious but how long ago did you start watching boxing and how much of the generations prior to your watching have you properly researched and watched? I'm not saying this to be a d1ck and sorry if it comes off that way but I'm curious.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NachoMan
                      You just exposed yourself forever as an ignorant casual with that comment. SRL didn't just lose to any old lightweight, but the greatest lightweight of all time and possibly one of the top ten P4P fighters of all time.
                      I think if we used time machines than Duran could (perhaps would) prove to be the greatest 135 of all-time in a h2h sense but I think Benny Leonard and Joe Gans have tremendous claims given their competition was a lot stronger than Duran's at 135 and they were just as dominant especially Leonard. Overall though I rank Duran higher p4p because of his other accomplishments such as the amazing Leonard and Barkley wins. I think for sure he's a top 10 all-time guy.

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