Reasons why fans are AGAINST Lomachenko vs Lopez

[Shape up]

if lopez was to fight and beat someone rated in the top 10 at least, then we'd know if a loma fight is even worthwhile. as it stands now, the match is a complete wild card. loma vs any proven opponent should be preferred. I think a lot of people who are pushing for this are top rank haters, and view it as a lose lose situation for bob...not to mention , it keeps tank's name out of it for the time being.

Good to see there is people on here who talk sense still, at the moment this fight has to be seen as a joke, Lopez isn’t even rated in the top 30 by boxrec at the moment

[Bullrider]

Can someone help me understand the Loma hate? Why is he hated?

[Bullrider]

Was he offered $15 mil, not to mention 3 titles held by the reigning king and he turned it all down and wanted more? Is he as greedy as Wilder?

[mathed]

Not me, I say make it happen so Loma can destroy this dude and we can stop hearing about him.

[BLASTER1]

Lopez has no chance against Loma surely he must know this deep down.
I think he is making all this noise with no intention of fighting him ever.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Agree 100% with OP. I don't think Lopez himself or these people demanding the fight believe what they are asking for they just don't think it will happen because he's a very green prospect and very raw. I've seen people say he had the better amateur career, has better pro credentials and is more skilled. It's obvious trolling.

I want the fight to happen maybe at the end of this year or the first quarter of 2020. If Lopez looks good with his first "credible" opponent Saturday then IMO some of the talk is justified. Loma said it best "When I beat him nobody will care or give credit" it's just like the Rigo and Walters situations when these people said "He'll never fight him" then "He will get destroyed by I won't front if he wins I'll give credit" then their criticism got more intense when those predictions were made to look beyond pathetic and more one-sided than even Loma's hardcore fans thought. How does that happen?

If Commey and the IBF belt is available then you do that otherwise if he fights Lopez then right after it these fans demanding Lopez gets his shot will say "He cherry picked a green fighter he's ducking Commey". I guarantee that would happen. 100%. If Garcia stays at 135 then that fight is #1 priority otherwise the WBC belt will be more worthy for now and also Berchelt is more worthy right now given he's #1 at 130 and more proven than Lopez. If Lopez had a belt then he could call whatever bluff he thinks they have but if he moves to 140 without the fight happening then it's highly su****ious and his motives were clear. There was never any talk of 140 until he mentioned Loma and then put an ultimatum on the pound for pound best whilst having zero credibility in the sport.

My take is that the people demanding the fight have either never seen Lopez or at best only saw and heard of him when he last fought and opened his mouth. In the minds of a sane boxing fan should Loma get credit for destroying him like he would? NO. He shouldn't and wouldn't but the people (fake) demanding the fight should be held accountable and would have to admit they were wrong on Lopez and Lomachenko or their credibility goes (even further) down. I think Loma would make him quit after winning every round (I could see Calzaghe-Lacy type action) and these people will fill the forum with hate, cries about Lopez being green, too young and Loma will be even less of a fighter in their eyes and they will say Haney is the next guy then it will be Garcia and then maybe back to Verdejo.

"These people, these people, these people." Why you keep saying that? Who are we? I'm not a troll, people here know that. Why you keep undermining people who want the fight?

Your post is full of nonsense and excuses. I'm one of the people demanding the fight. Save me your belts and all that crap.

You know I was a Lomachenko fan (a good one too) until the Crolla fight was announced. I made many posts where I say Loma is special (you ignore that). I justified some of his struggles with nondescript opponents like Linares and Pedraza because I thought he was too small for 135. I said he's marvelous to watch.

All that niceties aside, I'm his fan, not his woman, like some here seem. I want to see some competition, some excitement, people buzzing, something, anything, except 100-1 mismatches. It's disappointing.

I despise belts, website rankings, Boxrec (the worst thing in boxing, IMO, except for fighters' records), or any of that crap. I wanna see good fights.

In Loma's last fight, something I've never paid attention to before, he looked completely robotical, one-dimensional (despite fighting a can), amateurish, and needed two rounds to warm up. Loma is like a skilled machine, and those pitty patty two-handed fans in the first few rounds, are the engine starters. If he warms up, you are gone.

These skilled young guns won't give him respect from the first second of the fight. Davis can fly with a loaded punch from one side of the ring to the other. Lopez with uppercuts. Davis too (about the uppercuts).

Even if he starts the machine, he won't be the same. More battering to ensue. You saw how bad his face was against featherfisted Pedraza. Davis punches at least 5 times harder than Pedraza. His face will be cooked.

He's not looking at a Crolla situation: a complete, utter can.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery (belts, promoters, and stuff like that) and demand challenges, not mismatches, that demean rather than elevate your fighter. Use your eyes.

I'm no longer a Lomachenko fan because of people like you (ChrisJr).

Peace.

[KillaMane26]

I agree 100%

[Bullrider]

So Lopez beat a bum like Magdaleno and Lomachenko is suddenly accused of ducking him? Is this how shallow fans have become?

[chrisJS]

"These people, these people, these people." Why you keep saying that? Who are we? I'm not a troll, people here know that. Why you keep undermining people who want the fight?

Your post is full of shit. I'm one of the people demanding the fight. Save me your belts and all that crap.

You know I was a Lomachenko fan (a good one too) until the shitty Crolla fight was announced. I made many posts where I say Loma is special (you ignore that). I justified some of his struggles with nondescript opponents like Linares and Pedraza because I thought he was too small for 135. I said he's marvelous to watch.

All that niceties aside, I'm his fan, not his bitch like some here seem. I want to see some competition, some excitement, people buzzing, something, anything, except 100-1 mismatches. It's disappointing.

I don't give a shit about belts, website rankings, Boxrec (the worst thing in boxing, IMO, except for fighters' records), or any of that crap. I wanna see good fights.

In Loma's last fight, something I've never paid attention to before, he looked completely robotical, one-dimensional (despite fighting a can), and needed two rounds to warm up. Loma is like a skilled machine, and those pitty patty two-handed fans in the first few rounds, are the engine starters. If he warms up, you are gone.

These skilled young guns won't give him respect from the first second of the fight. Davis can fly with a loaded punch from one side of the ring to the other. Lopez with uppercuts. Davis too (about the uppercuts).

Even if he starts the machine, he won't be the same. More battering to ensue. You saw how fucked up his face was against featherfisted Pedraza. Davis punches at least 5 times harder than Pedraza. His face will be cooked.

He's not looking at a Crolla situation: a complete, utter can.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery (belts, promoters, and shit like that). You should demand challenges, not mismatches that demean, rather than elevate, your fighter. Use your eyes.

I'm no longer a Lomachenko fan because of people like you.

Why haven’t you stopped being a Davis fan? His opposition is the worst probably of any champion.

Lomachenko isn’t going to fight a puncher the way he fought Pedraza. He’s confident not careless. You think Walters is a bum but many picked Walters and he was a proven heavy hitter Loma fought him differently than Pedraza. There’s thousands examples of fighters changing their style for fights. Loma does have skin that appears to mark easily though. Some fighters do. The great Jose Napoles has paper thin skin. He was still a good boxer IMO.

Regarding the other stuff I’ve just seen posters like you demand fights made bold claims and then refused to give credit and move on to the next guy. I’ve been online talking about for the last 20 years it’s kinda always been that way but has been at its all time worst the last 4-5 years. It’s pretty petty you’ve changed your entire view on a boxer based on a few fans on a toilet of a Forum. If I was that fickle I’d have kicked Tito to the curb when his fans were awful but he’s still one of my all-time favorites but when the fanboys (like what you do with Tank) were saying he was the GOAT and would KO Jones and I always felt Jones was better because I am objective.

You’ll never find me saying Lomachenko is an all-time great or one of the best ever. You’ll find me saying he’s a talent and he’s done great things so far and of the boxers I’ve seen live up close and personal he’s right up there with best. IMO he’s better in that regard than my all-time favorite boxer Marquez and my current favorite boxer Crawford.

[Shape up]

"These people, these people, these people." Why you keep saying that? Who are we? I'm not a troll, people here know that. Why you keep undermining people who want the fight?

Your post is full of shit. I'm one of the people demanding the fight. Save me your belts and all that crap.

You know I was a Lomachenko fan (a good one too) until the shitty Crolla fight was announced. I made many posts where I say Loma is special (you ignore that). I justified some of his struggles with nondescript opponents like Linares and Pedraza because I thought he was too small for 135. I said he's marvelous to watch.

All that niceties aside, I'm his fan, not his bitch like some here seem. I want to see some competition, some excitement, people buzzing, something, anything, except 100-1 mismatches. It's disappointing.

I don't give a shit about belts, website rankings, Boxrec (the worst thing in boxing, IMO, except for fighters' records), or any of that crap. I wanna see good fights.

In Loma's last fight, something I've never paid attention to before, he looked completely robotical, one-dimensional (despite fighting a can), and needed two rounds to warm up. Loma is like a skilled machine, and those pitty patty two-handed fans in the first few rounds, are the engine starters. If he warms up, you are gone.

These skilled young guns won't give him respect from the first second of the fight. Davis can fly with a loaded punch from one side of the ring to the other. Lopez with uppercuts. Davis too (about the uppercuts).

Even if he starts the machine, he won't be the same. More battering to ensue. You saw how fucked up his face was against featherfisted Pedraza. Davis punches at least 5 times harder than Pedraza. His face will be cooked.

He's not looking at a Crolla situation: a complete, utter can.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery (belts, promoters, and shit like that). You should demand challenges, not mismatches that demean, rather than elevate, your fighter. Use your eyes.

I'm no longer a Lomachenko fan because of people like you.

You don’t notice much, loma never starts fast, he measures for a couple of rounds then slowly picks up the work rate round by round, you never have been a loma fan and if Davis was able to do that damage, why aren’t they jumping at the fight, because Floyd knows Davis only has a punchers chance and would more than likely be humiliated and embarressed