Reasons why fans are AGAINST Lomachenko vs Lopez

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  • Dosumpthin
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    #31
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    The highest ranked boxer Lopez has defeated was ranked 46th by boxrec and unranked by anyone else. All his other cherry picked victims were ranked down in the 2 and 3 hundreds and boxrec ranks Lopez number 27 at lightweight. To say Loma avoids competition when he has defeated so many champions in 3 weight classes and is trying to fight good champions Tank and Mikey is a really ****** thing to say. Lopez needs to beat a legit top 10 contender before having the right to even ask for a Loma fight. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts. If Lopez is so Goddamn good then beating a real contender to earn a Loma fight should be easy for him. Right now he is a 12 fight promising prospect who has yet to beat a top 40 lightweight.
    How long did Loma hide in the amateurs? What's his amateur record again?


    Stop making excuses. Loma waited till the coast was clear.

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    • boliodogs
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      #32
      Originally posted by Curt Henning
      bro...rigo was 37 and fighting once a year the previous three years.....no comparison

      lopez is an active 21 year old knocking guys out...granted not high level comp..but hes highlight reel ko'ing them and wants the fight

      you guys cry and whine that davis doesnt want to fight him and "goes silent".....now you have a kid talking and talking and wanting the fight and you have excuses as to why it doesnt need to happen

      you guys whine about "i wanna see a guy take control over his career and tell his promoter to make a fight" when its convenient for you against someone you dont like

      but heres a classic example of loma dismissing an interesting matchup and talking about luke friggin campbell who would prob be at least a 25-1 underdog...LOL
      Are you so ignorant on boxing that you don't know the difference between proven world champion Davis who has KOed almost all of 24 guys he fought including champion and top contenders and a loud mouth rookie prospect with 12 fights and some spectacular KO wins over nobody ranked even in the top 40 lightweights? I don't cry about Davis not fighting Loma. He is a 130 pound champion so as long as he fights good 130 pound contenders that's fine with me. I wish Loma would fight Lopez even though Lopez has absolutely not earned a shot at him. That way Lopez could show us how good he really is in the ring and not just with his arrogant mouth.

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      • boliodogs
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dosumpthin
        How long did Loma hide in the amateurs? What's his amateur record again?


        Stop making excuses. Loma waited till the coast was clear.
        So you are saying Loma hide in the amateurs until the time was perfect for him to jump in and win many world titles in three different weight classes and try to unify lightweight. Boy you sure are going out of your way to hate the guy. Is is were he lives? I think Loma is great and needs no excuses and so do most of the major rating places that have him number 1 pfp. He certainly needs no excuse for not fighting Lopez now when he has only 12 wins over hand picked cherries.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #34
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          bro...rigo was 37 and fighting once a year the previous three years.....no comparison

          lopez is an active 21 year old knocking guys out...granted not high level comp..but hes highlight reel ko'ing them and wants the fight

          you guys cry and whine that davis doesnt want to fight him and "goes silent".....now you have a kid talking and talking and wanting the fight and you have excuses as to why it doesnt need to happen

          you guys whine about "i wanna see a guy take control over his career and tell his promoter to make a fight" when its convenient for you against someone you dont like

          but heres a classic example of loma dismissing an interesting matchup and talking about luke friggin campbell who would prob be at least a 25-1 underdog...LOL
          yet luke Campbell is rated higher and far more proven than lopez. lopez should be stepping in against someone like luke Campbell to prove he's ready for the top guys...instead people want him to jump the line ahead of guys who've been out there earning their rankings. if lopez beats one opponent in the top 10, then talk about a potential fight with loma. like I said before, a lot of the people who are really pushing for this "interesting fight", are top rank haters who view it as a potential lose lose for arum. they salivate at the thought of it, but that old scumbag has 0 intention of making that fight...he's just letting it play out for publicity.

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          • Dosumpthin
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            #35
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            So you are saying Loma hide in the amateurs until the time was perfect for him to jump in and win many world titles in three different weight classes and try to unify lightweight. Boy you sure are going out of your way to hate the guy. Is is were he lives? I think Loma is great and needs no excuses and so do most of the major rating places that have him number 1 pfp. He certainly needs no excuse for not fighting Lopez now when he has only 12 wins over hand picked cherries.
            Almost got it exactly. Just that Loma should've waited till Salidoe was out of the way. Maybe turn pro around 27/28. Another 100 amatuer fights.

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            • Boksfan
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              #36
              Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
              There seems to be this false assumption that fans of Loma are against a fight with Lopez because they fear that it's a high risk fight for him. NO. The reason why actual boxing fans are against Lomachenko fighting a mere prospect like Lopez is because:

              1. Teo Lopez offers NOTHING to the table right now and would be an EASY win for Loma, with absolutely NO BENEFITS FOR LOMA'S RESUME AT ALL. Please stop fooling yourself and wishfully thinking that Lopez is this monster that strikes fear. Loma would literally toy Lopez like he's his child.

              2. Fighting Lopez now and easily whooping him would have people jumping into the excuse wagon once again saying that Lopez was "too green", "too inexperience", "too young", "hasn't fought anyone", "wasn't all that good", "was overhyped", the list goes on and on. Just like Loma's previous wins. The difference would be that a win over Lopez would do absolutely nothing to Loma's legacy other than to shut a couple of his haters.

              3. Lomachenko wants to unify and fight the best guys WITH A BELT ASAP and become undisputed at the weight class. That means facing actual proven guys such as Commey, Davis, Farmer, Berchelt, Garcia, etc.

              4. Lopez has literally fought NO ONE, NONE, ZIP, ZILCH, NOT ONE fighter that's worth a damn that warrants him a shot against arguably the best fighter in the planet. Talking your way and simply calling out the best without having much to back up on does not give you a shot right away.

              5. Boxing fans like myself actually LIKE Lopez and want him to continue develop as a fighter and not thrown into the wolves right away. The last thing I want to see is a very talented fighter like Lopez to fall into the Fernando Vargas route.

              People have to understand that Lopez is just a stepping stool right now and would be a waste of time for Loma. If Lopez were to fight Loma and gets taken apart, the chances of him losing confidence in himself and disappearing like Walters and Rigo are high. I really don't want to see someone like Lopez to end up being another Nomaschenko victim.
              You speaking facts here.

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              • -Kev-
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                #37
                Yes, Loma should not fall for the haters. They will turn around either as soon as the fight is signed and sealed, or after the fight, and say Lopez was green.

                Mayweather critics wanted him to fight Canelo, then the fight got signed and before and after that, they were saying Canelo was green. Canelo had wins over Austin Trout, Ryan Rhodes, Miguel Vazquez, Kermit Cintron, and Shane Mosley at the time, so his resume was not exactly great but it was far better than Lopez's is now, and people still said he was too green to discredit Mayweather.

                Same will happen to Lomachenko for sure. You can bet me personally, I will not give Lomachenko credit for that win because Lopez is really too green and his little fanbase need to stop with their foolishness.

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                • Bullrider
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                  #38
                  So they hate Lomachenko. And they call themselves boxing fans.

                  Unbelievable.

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                  • Lomasexual
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Tank is about the same yet people are clamoring for aTank/Loma fight.

                    You’re a solid poster so I accept everything you posted here. Just understand how weak and bad it looks when posters who post they want to see exciting fighters that go for a ko get more opportunities then say they don’t want to see Lopez fight Loma.

                    I think you can understand people responding to hypocrisy like this so strongly.
                    Are you trolling here?

                    A 12 fight prospect, who hasn't fought anyone ranked in the top 50...

                    Is the same as a multiple belt holder who has had 5 title fights?

                    This is exactly the kind of thing which the OP is talking about. The people who are pushing for this fight keep saying nonsense - stuff which is so irrational it makes you question their boxing knowledge.

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                    • Lomasexual
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      Same will happen to Lomachenko for sure. You can bet me personally, I will not give Lomachenko credit for that win because Lopez is really too green and his little fanbase need to stop with their foolishness.
                      That's the thing. If Loma beat Lopez tomorrow, he would get no credit - and should get no credit.

                      The only way he could ever get any credit for beating Lopez now, is if Lopez immediately went up to 140 and captured a belt in his next fight or two. Then there cold be some kind of hindsight revision, which is never worth much in itself anyway.

                      That might bump Loma's win from being absolutely worthless to being ok. Not great. Just ok.

                      There isn't a single reason for Loma to be interested in the fight. Not one.

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