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  • Stinger1
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    #51
    Originally posted by Digital Mouth
    What's probably happened is Big Baby Miller took it before he knew he was fighting Joshua and it's probably still in his system because let's not forget AJ was suppose to be fighting at Wembley Stadium on the 13th of April and Miller snuck through the back door and scored the fight. Surprise surprise.
    Supposedly he had a clean test the week before the hot test so my guess is he wasn't expecting a test so soon after and thought it would be out of his system. It seems for the VADA additional testing (not the WBC VADA testing) you're almost tested once a week. Given Miller has never been through it before he's probably been found out.

    For those who say they don't understand why he would risk getting caught, if he beat AJ he would get unbelievable money for his next fights and probably thought he wouldn't caught anyway.

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      #52
      The irony in this piece yet again from Wilder is off the hook. I genuinely think he has serious mental problems. The dude has zero self awareness. It's like he has no idea about what he himself says or does. He's oblivious to it all.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Rbjr77
        If the Miller team is certain about there was no substance abuse then that lab and the workers involved should be able to provide a detailed report from the start point of when Miller pissed in the cup. What happened next should look like a fex ex log with a signature by each move. Where did it go? What room? Who has keys? Who car was it in? Why did my sample stop at the mall? Was it secure? In a safe? On an on til you got the results. Machines used, certs from lab personnel? Who's the janitor? Who cleans up at night? Is the place secured? How? Who was on duty when the Miller sample was being handled? All that sh**. All this because Eddie Hearn is cheap and don't want to pay 6M to an opponent without a belt.
        Hearn is paying the stand-in the same purse he was paying Miller.

        But nice story. The truth is it is just cheating Americans like it always is. That's the truth. Not your crazed story of pure fantasy.

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        • HarvardBlue
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          #54
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          The irony in this piece yet again from Wilder is off the hook. I genuinely think he has serious mental problems. The dude has zero self awareness. It's like he has no idea about what he himself says or does. He's oblivious to it all.
          I'm assuming you mean Wilder did the same thing because he turned down the "opportunity of a lifetime" and left all that money on the table. Those are 2 completely different situations. Wilder is betting he can make more money in going in another direction. Time will tell if he's wrong. I would assume him and his family made the decision together so how would that be letting them down? Miller made the decision to do what he did because he wanted an edge in the fight. There's no way he was doing his family any favors by gettting caught cheating.

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            #55
            Originally posted by 5000boxing
            Exactly.. I'm waiting to see the b sample before I go ham on miller.. only because I doubt he is that ****** to risk that kind of bread just for endurance in a fight he was meant to lose.. but I admit.. he does look cut.. and from 350 to 315.. hmmm.. but I got my popcorn.. just sittinf back.. waiting to see what happens..
            So all the American juicers in the past are innocent as well? In all sports? Because they wouldn't be ****** to risk it all?

            Maybe Hearn was born before he actually was to tamper with all the tests of all the American cheats in the past. Ah, it all makes sense now. Thanks for clearing it up.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              Fighters are still always still tested for PED's before and after fights with basic urine tests. This doesn't mean he was always dirty even though it doesn't look good. That said, he doesn't look like he has the build of someone on PED's. He's just not 'cut' enough
              Miller has always refused to do proper testing in the past. This is his first time doing it and he got busted. So with his already failed test in 2014, i'd wager big money he's always done PED's.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Vegemil
                Wilder can't be talking about letting anybody down.
                I don't recall Wilder testing positive for a banned substance. So yes he can talk about it.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by joseph5620
                  I don't recall Wilder testing positive for a banned substance. So yes he can talk about it.
                  Yes he can talk about the failed drug test. I was clearly referring to his choice of words given his current situation in the eyes of most boxing fans.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HarvardBlue
                    I'm assuming you mean Wilder did the same thing because he turned down the "opportunity of a lifetime" and left all that money on the table. Those are 2 completely different situations. Wilder is betting he can make more money in going in another direction. Time will tell if he's wrong. I would assume him and his family made the decision together so how would that be letting them down? Miller made the decision to do what he did because he wanted an edge in the fight. There's no way he was doing his family any favors by gettting caught cheating.
                    He's saying Miller let his family down but had nothing to say about his own brother failing a test. He also said another drug cheat in Ortiz would be the perfect stand-in. Hypocrisy and irony.

                    Wilder had a life changing opportunity with a fight with AJ to become undisputed for money way beyond what he generates. Yet he's talking like he wouldn't let that kind of opportunity pass him by. He even called the 6.5 Miller was getting "Life changing". What about the 100 Mill contract he was offered? That's beyond life changing. He said you hold the opportunity dear when it comes. He's beyond delusional.

                    "The things you know are going to get you into trouble, you don't do" What like gang up and assault another fighter but blame him for causing it when the truth is clear for all to see? Deontay lied yet again but was proven wrong. Again. He strangled a ********** in Las Vegas. He said he wants a dead body on his record. Need I go on?

                    If you didn't laugh while reading the words of this crazed and delusional moron, then there is something wrong with you.

                    He also said Miller wasn't likable for the things he says and does. Wilder has zero self awareness. It's extreme. And to call out someone else about how they do business? Haha. Yeah, f3cking madness.

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                    • HarvardBlue
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      He's saying Miller let his family down but had nothing to say about his own brother failing a test. He also said another drug cheat in Ortiz would be the perfect stand-in. Hypocrisy and irony.

                      Wilder had a life changing opportunity with a fight with AJ to become undisputed for money way beyond what he generates. Yet he's talking like he wouldn't let that kind of opportunity pass him by. He even called the 6.5 Miller was getting "Life changing". What about the 100 Mill contract he was offered? That's beyond life changing. He said you hold the opportunity dear when it comes. He's beyond delusional.

                      "The things you know are going to get you into trouble, you don't do" What like gang up and assault another fighter but blame him for causing it when the truth is clear for all to see? Deontay lied yet again but was proven wrong. Again. He strangled a ********** in Las Vegas. He said he wants a dead body on his record. Need I go on?

                      If you didn't laugh while reading the words of this crazed and delusional moron, then there is something wrong with you.

                      He also said Miller wasn't likable for the things he says and does. Wilder has zero self awareness. It's extreme. And to call out someone else about how they do business? Haha. Yeah, f3cking madness.
                      Man you went deep on this one!

                      He didn't mentioned his brother but there's no way to know if he had that conversation with him. No need to think he would bring that conversation with a family member to the public.

                      Like I said, time will tell if he made the right decision on the offer for AJ. Again, that had to be decision he made with his family. I'm not familiar with the assault or strangling a ********** but if he did that of course he doesn't get a pass. I definitely don't agree with the dead body statement. That was way over the line.

                      I agree Wilder is seem to be acting out for about a year or 2. I noticed the difference in his personality during the second Stiverne fight. Maybe he thinks it's something he need to do to get some attention. I wouldnt call him delusional or not being self aware but he needs relax a bit.

                      As far as what contract he signs, that's between him and family.

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