What % of top level fighters do you think are using PED’s?

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A better question would be what percentage of fighters have NEVER used ILLEGAL performance enhancing drugs?

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Marquez with the huge shoulders, sudden increase in power and protruded abs.

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Mayweather admitting to vampire facials - blood doping.

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An easy opinion based on a shred of nothing. Those guys didn't have boutique drugs or drug makers back then. Ali is famous for training videos splitting rail ties and wood. Most are famous for the RIGORS of their training. None ever showed any of the phsical appearance abnornalities commonly seen with PED use. They didn't have radical weight/strength fluctuations during of after their careers.

I get it, insinuate that the greats maybe weren't great and it bolsters your previous comments about these current guys being greater than the historical figures. FAIL!! On so many levels.

Trying to smear the top fighters in history is a cheap shot at people resting in peace or senior citizens ... all for a worthless piece of opinion and propaganda, trying to lift up fighters who are scared to fight each other without every possible advantage in their corner.

FAIL ALL DAY!

You know absolutely nothing!

Yes it’s true that there are new PED’d today but let’s not act like there wasn’t PED’s back then either!

It was just different from the times of then and now and that there was barely any drug
Testing compared to now which is my original point!

You talk like an old timer that’s stuck on nostalgia so much that you forget fighters back then took lots of dives and sometimes even fought the same guy 3 times within the same month who would take a dive each time!

Stop reminiscing on fallacy so much and get with the times, just like now the favored fighters had favoritism as well!

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There would be no VADA if it wasn't for Floyd making stringent testing mandatory.


To say Floyd retired to avoid VADA is.....creative. Never heard that one before so I know it's not a even at least a rumor. Props to your imigination.


But facts are, VADA wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Floyd taking a stand, faithful anti-Floyd haters and imaginative conspiracy theorist like yourself.

So what your saying is Floyd created VADA by paying out of his own pocket and has since to fund them to help keep the sport clean despite never actually utilizing VADA!

I’m not saying Floyd is a cheat but we can’t be surprised anymore, ffs Lance Armstrong and Shane Mosley were never caught but have both admitted that there are numerous ways to beat a test and never get caught especially if you have the influence and buying power plus a smart team!

I credit Floyd for being the biggest athlete to speak out on it but that whole IV thing was very su****ious since he’s stated he’s never dehydrated and is always comfortable at 147!

You can hold Floyd to god
Level and act like he does no wrong but not me!

I’m a fan of him as a boxer but it doesn’t mean I can’t call it straight down the middle!

Sorry but not sorry, only Donaire and maybe Wilder does VADA testing randomly 365 days as fighters!

That is the only way to know if it’s truly a level playing field!

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So what your saying is Floyd created VADA by paying out of his own pocket and has since to fund them to help keep the sport clean despite never actually utilizing VADA!

I’m not saying Floyd is a cheat but we can’t be surprised anymore, ffs Lance Armstrong and Shane Mosley were never caught but have both admitted that there are numerous ways to beat a test and never get caught especially if you have the influence and buying power plus a smart team!

I credit Floyd for being the biggest athlete to speak out on it but that whole IV thing was very su****ious since he’s stated he’s never dehydrated and is always comfortable at 147!

You can hold Floyd to god
Level and act like he does no wrong but not me!

I’m a fan of him as a boxer but it doesn’t mean I can’t call it straight down the middle!

Sorry but not sorry, only Donaire and maybe Wilder does VADA testing randomly 365 days as fighters!

That is the only way to know if it’s truly a level playing field!

No I said Floyd making Olympic style testing via USADA mandatory for all of his fights - he created a lane for VADA.

Victor Conte is the guy that created VADA.

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You know absolutely nothing!
Yes it’s true that there are new PED’d today but let’s not act like there wasn’t PED’s back then either!
It was just different from the times of then and now and that there was barely any drug
Testing compared to now which is my original point!
You talk like an old timer that’s stuck on nostalgia so much that you forget fighters back then took lots of dives and sometimes even fought the same guy 3 times within the same month who would take a dive each time!
Stop reminiscing on fallacy so much and get with the times, just like now the favored fighters had favoritism as well!

You just reinforced my point .... you have zero evidence to prove the poison coming out of your head beyond you imagining that something must have been going on. Conjecture from a simpleton .... that's all you've got. You have no idea the personal honor people had in achieving things in times past. Most of those guys barley had money to think about a PED, and definitely no time to try to find them. Drugs were the answer for things like polio ... not becoming a great athlete. You're way off base rookie.