What % of top level fighters do you think are using PED’s?

[HandsofIron]

Oh idk maybe 95% or more.

[lopetego]

Not even just boxing, all top athletes today are using something.


Basketball, baseball and to an extent football I don't really care if they dope.


But contact sports I see it as a huge problem, UFC and boxing.

Why not let everyone juice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5_67WbyJUM&t=277s

Technically this was a fair fight, both roided to the eyeballs is like both being clean. The result still came down to who was the better fighter

Extensive drug testing is a new thing in boxing, that only became big due to Mayweather being a ***** and trying to duck Pacquiao

Everybody with the money and means to do it was most likely juicing in the 70's, 80's, 90's. A lot of our boxing legends were on something for sure.

[JJRod]

90% of fighter out there are taking some kind of substance.
I’m convinced many times they may not know it’s an illegal substance. They think it’s from gnc or something like that, but they all take something.

[Dosumpthin]

I say 85%, I mean there’s millions at stake plus pride and the fact it could be their last fight in the ring!

I heard Floyd was possibly onto something cuz he retired as soon as VADA started to become the premier use for boxing fights while we all know how corrupt USADA is and as well as UKAD!

Tyson Fury got caught twice, Ortiz twice, Miller twice, Dillian Whyte has been caught, Wilder’s brother popped, Shannon Briggs popped, Pacquiao didn’t give us the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight in their primes cuz he refused to do blood testing, Canelo got caught twice, Chavez jr popped, Peterson Bros both popped, etc.

IMO I think they should just let them all do it cuz this will
Continue to be a problem!

I mean the legends we all look up to in awe back then, how many do we truly know we’re actually clean as we now know the top fighters will be catered to and have favoritism! I mean compared to then, VADA blows the testing out of the water!

If VADA was available to the fighters back then I surmise many guys we think were clean would be getting popped left and right!

There would be no VADA if it wasn't for Floyd making stringent testing mandatory.


To say Floyd retired to avoid VADA is.....creative. Never heard that one before so I know it's not a even at least a rumor. Props to your imigination.


But facts are, VADA wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Floyd taking a stand, faithful anti-Floyd haters and imaginative conspiracy theorist like yourself.

[Dosumpthin]

Why not let everyone juice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5_67WbyJUM&t=277s

Technically this was a fair fight, both roided to the eyeballs is like both being clean. The result still came down to who was the better fighter

Extensive drug testing is a new thing in boxing, that only became big due to Mayweather being a ***** and trying to duck Pacquiao

Everybody with the money and means to do it was most likely juicing in the 70's, 80's, 90's. A lot of our boxing legends were on something for sure.

Why didn't Manny just agree to a 14day cut off? That way Floyd couldn't escape?

[lopetego]

Why didn't Manny just agree to a 14day cut off? That way Floyd couldn't escape?

because Floydette was a prima donna throwing **** at the wall, trying to do everything to stall the fight, he was moving the roadblocks over and over

Pac exposed his bull**** when he accepted the 14 day cut off a couple months later, then Floyd wanted blood testing til the day of the fight and bigger share of the purse, then he lost "the urge", then he said Pacquiao had "Marquez problems" etc

anything so he could avoid fighting a Pacquiao anywhere close to his prime. and he got away with it.

All this testing paranoia started just because Floyd was trying to duck Pacquiao. All these cancelled fights are bs because most top fighters are on something for sure, I dont believe for a second Joshua is clean. This is all part of Mayweather's putrid legacy

[sicko]

ALL are ON something! Remember it is a Banned List and that Banned List doesn't have EVERYTHING on it. It is a TON of stuff that is not on that banned list (YET) that fighters can use I'm sure which are still a form PED's. That is what SNAC is good at, making supplements that can help with you performance and recover with stuff that is not BANNED!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Not even just boxing, all top athletes today are using something.


Basketball, baseball and to an extent football I don't really care if they dope.


But contact sports I see it as a huge problem, UFC and boxing.

Completely agree sport is flushed with PED’s.

[MastaBlasta]

The charlos, porter, garcia, spence, canelo, crawford, lomachenko, aj, wilder, ggg, jacobs, bjs, pacquaio, all those mfers making millions are juicing.

We all know mayweather was juicing with his exemptions and Lance Armstrong IVs. Mosely, berto, peterson, rjj, vargas, Toney are all known cheaters.

Maybe ODLH could have been clean. He had such a clean cut image. But it was probably a front. Can you imagine how good ODLH would have been if everyone he fought were natural?

So everybody who ever beat a hispanic is cheating? But no mention of Clenelo? Or Marquez? LoLoL! Too predictable .... FAIL!

I think they're innocent until proven guilty, PERIOD! All the rest is name bashing by jealous underachievers blaspheming fighters names from the shadows of the net and the safety of their couch. It's the beef, doe!

[lizard_man]

So everybody who ever beat a hispanic is cheating? But no mention of Clenelo? Or Marquez? LoLoL! Too predictable .... FAIL!

I think they're innocent until proven guilty, PERIOD! All the rest is name bashing by jealous underachievers blaspheming fighters names from the shadows of the net and the safety of their couch. It's the beef, doe!

Damn bro youre getting waaaay to defensive. Reread, i did mention canelo.

Lmao of course you would make this about race. I guarantee you're a dead beat in real life. I've noticed people who make everything about race are disgruntled broke people.