Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Loma Not As Good As They Say; Won't Fight Teofimo Lopez

[The Big Dunn]

I've had TMT on ignore a while. My ignore list is over 100. A name like that suggests fanboy and the type that only started liking a fighter because he was the best and would drop those fighters the moment they took a loss.

I think Loma's next five fights will be (rough order)

Commey (IBF belt so logical next fight and TR have a contract for Commey's next fight)

Berchelt (#1 fighter at 130, borderline p4p, Mexican fan base and on a good run)

Lopez (Possible first PPV)

Campbell (I suspect he'll have the WBC belt so logical and possibly in England)

Verdejo (Tank won't ever fight him and it appears TR are building Verdejo up again so if he keeps winning and climbs rankings he'll get a title shot at some point)

I think a lot of folks will (are) picking Lopez, some will pick Commey, a lot will pick Berchelt and give no credit. IMO he'll go 5-0 on that run and the guy that will take most rounds off of him will be Campbell who'll probably win 2 or 3 at most.

Why are you posting "many will pick Berchelt and give no credit"?

I know you are a huge Loma fan but that fight would be far more competitive had it been at 130 when Berchelt was the #1 ranked fighter at that weight rather than potentially at 135 2-3 years later. Wouldn't the winner deserve more credit if the fight took place among 2 prime 130lbers to determine the best in the division?

You often criticize fighters for leaving the division and not fighting everyone. Will you criticize Loma the same in this instance?

[BoxingIsGreat]

Lol, they won’t even mention Lopez’s name in most of their posts. He’s like The Big pink elephant in the room who they keep pretending they don’t see.

The funny thing is now they want him to fight Commey before Lomachenko. Why? What has Lopez done to deserve a shot at Commey's belt? Shouldn't he get a belt first to fight Commey? What's the difference? What am I missing? Can you explain to me, bro?

You know what I think of belts. All are garbage (that actually gives garbage a bad name) and they sometimes serve to duck fighters.

[BoxingIsGreat]

How do you know Lopez would do better than those random lightweight dudes like let's say fckin Campbell or a barely healthy commey?

Lopez beating cans coming off tko losses, ranked barely top 100.

He might struggle soon once he fights someone who can punch back and have a chin, let alone lomo.

I'm pretty sure gervonta would do better than Lopez, you guys are the one asking for sht fights with a prospect.

I want Gervonta next...that's my wish.

Mine too.

In the meantime, there's only one other wish: Lopez next, without delay. I'll start watching Loma again when he fights Lopez. The rest of the upcoming cans I don't care for.

[chrisJS]

Why are you posting "many will pick Berchelt and give no credit"?

I know you are a huge Loma fan but that fight would be far more competitive had it been at 130 when Berchelt was the #1 ranked fighter at that weight rather than potentially at 135 2-3 years later. Wouldn't the winner deserve more credit if the fight took place among 2 prime 130lbers to determine the best in the division?

You often criticize fighters for leaving the division and not fighting everyone. Will you criticize Loma the same in this instance?

We've gone over the timing of Berchelt being unavailable based on facts. He got a bunch of injuries and went the WBC route since he was ranked highly. I can give you the time frame of said events too. There wasn't any kind of buzz around him too and he is now being built into a worthy fighter and an attraction now he's fully aligned to ESPN and has more of a resume and actually appears to be improving fight by fight. Loma is probably a little smaller than Berchelt too and older. Berchelt is like 26 or 27.

Berchelt was never #1 at 130. Loma beat the previous #1 in June 2016 which was half a year before Berchelt-Vargas. Loma was #1 after the first fight and stayed until he left and beat the #1 at 135 first fight.

[BillyBoxing]

What's your take on Arum saying Lomachenko isn't fighting Davis the day before Ellerbe said Bob knows Lomachenko isn't fighting Davis next?

Maybe because he knows TMT doesn't want this fight since day one?

[BillyBoxing]

Mine too.

In the meantime, there's only one other wish: Lopez next, without delay. I'll start watching Loma again when he fights Lopez. The rest of the upcoming cans I don't care for.

The winner of Barthelemy Vs Easter might be a good fight.

Commey is a good fight too. Dude is huge and hard hitting.

Mikey if he comes back down.

There are some fights at 135.

I'm cool with teo even if a confirmation top fight would be better.

I would be really surprised if uncle bob feed teo to Loma.

Loma ruining careers bro.

[skinnystev]

davis vs lopez the winner gets lomachenko

[The Big Dunn]

We've gone over the timing of Berchelt being unavailable based on facts. He got a bunch of injuries and went the WBC route since he was ranked highly. I can give you the time frame of said events too. There wasn't any kind of buzz around him too and he is now being built into a worthy fighter and an attraction now he's fully aligned to ESPN and has more of a resume and actually appears to be improving fight by fight. Loma is probably a little smaller than Berchelt too and older. Berchelt is like 26 or 27.

Berchelt was never #1 at 130. Loma beat the previous #1 in June 2016 which was half a year before Berchelt-Vargas. Loma was #1 after the first fight and stayed until he left and beat the #1 at 135 first fight.

You have used injuries to justify the fight not happening before Loma left 130 where in other instances you just crucify the fighter for not fighting everyone. That is somewhat biased.

Saying Berchelt is improving every fight is self serving. If you are correct that he is being built toward a Loma fight his recent resume indicates he is being fed easy wins to build to that fight, which isn't necessarily a sign he is getting better.

Since the Miura fight he fought Barrios (who was coming off a UD loss), Romain, (who we can agree is on the downside beating 3 bums and Salido after the Miura fight) and Awuku (who is a low level opponent).

I think Loma will get credit for wins as he always does. I don't think you can be too upset if posters weigh all facts when deciding the amount of credit they give a fighter for a win because you do the same thing.

[Truth Serum]

For all of the posters like good ole Ray, how is it deflection if Lopez is actually calling for the fight. Here is how silly you guys sound with the deflection talk....Davis is at 130 and not calling out Loma. Lopez is at 135 and calling out Loma. Loma is at 135 ignoring the guy at 135 promoted by his promoter, calling for a fight against Davis the 130 guy. Yet its deflection to say that the two 135 guys promoted by the same promoter should fight?

Fact: Ellerbe already said that Loma Davis isn't happening anytime soon. Call it ducking, call it marinating, call it getting Davis experience (or at least some consistency of fighting without out of the ring trouble). Call it what you want, they have been very clear. However, that does not stop Arum or Loma from bringing his name up. There should be nothing to deflect.

So Tank isn't fighting Loma because he's scared....but Loma's not fighting Lopez because of some logical reason other than being scared?

Loma wants belts. Why bother fighting everone that drops his name that has no belt that isnt even ranked in the top 10? He called out Mikey and I believe Mikey pulls a Canelo and hands him the belt but so far crickets.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The winner of Barthelemy Vs Easter might be a good fight.

Commey is a good fight too. Dude is huge and hard hitting.

Mikey if he comes back down.

There are some fights at 135.

I'm cool with teo even if a confirmation top fight would be better.

I would be really surprised if uncle bob feed teo to Loma.

Loma ruining careers bro.

Not interested in any of those. The only high praise you have for Commey is he's huge and hard hitting. So is Lopez. Lopez would decapitate Commey, IMO.

Aren't some of the people you mention with PBC? If Arum is gonna deal with PBC, their best fighter is Davis. Why waste time with a nondescript, never was, Barthelemy? Or Easter. Not even saying Lomachenko can beat them.

Give me Lopez next.