Is Gennady Golovkin an all time great?

[DreamFighter]

HoF for sure, ATG Middleweight? - maybe you could squeeze him into top 20 on longevity at the top level and dominance for the better part of a decade. ATG overall? Nah. However good you appear to be you need the right names in the W column and GGG hasn't really got squat.

Sad thing is I think he may have had the ability, but whether or not you feel it was his fault it was never really put to the test.

i wouldnt call 2015 to a vacation of the title in 2018 great longevity.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Hall of famer yes,, ATG no.


Ggg fought in a weak era, he would have been just a regular fighter in the early 90s

[Bjl12]

BJ you are entitled to your opinion and made a reasoned argument but Borat??? How the heck do you expect to be taken seriously. I don't get the constant name calling that people heap on Gennady. Apparently it makes some people feel manly when they name call another person who can't defend himself on the forum. It's just flat out childish.

Homie Canelo is my favorite fighter and I'm pretty sure I've seen YOU call him Clenbuterol or PEDs, etc.

Failing a drug test for Clenbuterol while being Mexican and being tested in Mexico does NOT automatically mean you are a cheat. In this case he failed a test, but the WADA lab director said "samples were consistent with meat contamination". Canelo took follicle test at request of NSAC (test is not 100% accurate). Canelo joined WBC365. Canelo never tested (+) for anything before or since. Canelo performed as good or better in GGG rematch.

So if you call Canelo a cheat...please dont get girlish about calling GGG Borat.

I like GGG. Hes a good, fun fighter. He did what was best for his CAREER because boxing is about EARNING PAYCHECKS.

What I dont like are GGGs rabid fans who said "hes about legacy", "he wants belts", "anyone from 154-168", "no catchweights, but Ward at 164", "judging for Canelo rematch were bad even though GGG picked judges...", "he fights anyone", "best MW ever"...

I cannot stand that at all. I'm a HUGE Canelo fan and I am the first to admit hes a garbage MW historically speaking. That doesn't mean he isnt fun today and right now, but hes got no shot against Hagler or even SRL at MW. That's just being objective.

[hugh grant]

One step at a time. Ask where he ranks as a middleweight all time and take it from there

[DreamFighter]

borat is awesome, better than GGG. Its an honour to called Borat.

[TonyGe]

Homie Canelo is my favorite fighter and I'm pretty sure I've seen YOU call him Clenbuterol or PEDs, etc.

Failing a drug test for Clenbuterol while being Mexican and being tested in Mexico does NOT automatically mean you are a cheat. In this case he failed a test, but the WADA lab director said "samples were consistent with meat contamination". Canelo took follicle test at request of NSAC (test is not 100% accurate). Canelo joined WBC365. Canelo never tested (+) for anything before or since. Canelo performed as good or better in GGG rematch.

So if you call Canelo a cheat...please dont get girlish about calling GGG Borat.

I like GGG. Hes a good, fun fighter. He did what was best for his CAREER because boxing is about EARNING PAYCHECKS.

What I dont like are GGGs rabid fans who said "hes about legacy", "he wants belts", "anyone from 154-168", "no catchweights, but Ward at 164", "judging for Canelo rematch were bad even though GGG picked judges...", "he fights anyone", "best MW ever"...

I cannot stand that at all. I'm a HUGE Canelo fan and I am the first to admit hes a garbage MW historically speaking. That doesn't mean he isnt fun today and right now, but hes got no shot against Hagler or even SRL at MW. That's just being objective.

"Homie Canelo is my favorite fighter and I'm pretty sure I've seen YOU call him Clenbuterol or PEDs, etc."

Never said any of those things. Never slandered him by name calling. If I think he's a cheat I come out and say it and I say why. What your doing is childish. I think once or twice I've called him a little weasel but that more of an observation than
a taunt.

[TonyGe]

Homie Canelo is my favorite fighter and I'm pretty sure I've seen YOU call him Clenbuterol or PEDs, etc.

Failing a drug test for Clenbuterol while being Mexican and being tested in Mexico does NOT automatically mean you are a cheat. In this case he failed a test, but the WADA lab director said "samples were consistent with meat contamination". Canelo took follicle test at request of NSAC (test is not 100% accurate). Canelo joined WBC365. Canelo never tested (+) for anything before or since. Canelo performed as good or better in GGG rematch.

So if you call Canelo a cheat...please dont get girlish about calling GGG Borat.

I like GGG. Hes a good, fun fighter. He did what was best for his CAREER because boxing is about EARNING PAYCHECKS.

What I dont like are GGGs rabid fans who said "hes about legacy", "he wants belts", "anyone from 154-168", "no catchweights, but Ward at 164", "judging for Canelo rematch were bad even though GGG picked judges...", "he fights anyone", "best MW ever"...

I cannot stand that at all. I'm a HUGE Canelo fan and I am the first to admit hes a garbage MW historically speaking. That doesn't mean he isnt fun today and right now, but hes got no shot against Hagler or even SRL at MW. That's just being objective.

"Homie Canelo is my favorite fighter and I'm pretty sure I've seen YOU call him Clenbuterol or PEDs, etc."

Never said any of those things. Never slandered him by name calling. If I think he's a cheat I come out and say it and I say why. I think once or twice I've called him a little weasel but that more of an observation than a taunt.

[BIG GUNZ]

HOF'er yes, ATG...probably not in the eyes of most. Had that 2nd Canelo fight been scored for Golovkin as I thought it should have, that may have changed a lot of the general opinion

Yeah, this is how I see it. I think it should be 1-1 against Canelo right now. To be ATG he would need to beat Canelo officially in a 3rd fight & get another few wins against A-class opponents. At 37 now I don’t see him taking any risky fights though outside of Canelo.

[BIG GUNZ]

Hall of famer yes,, ATG no.


Ggg fought in a weak era, he would have been just a regular fighter in the early 90s

Not sure about that though since GGG’s chin would have made him dangerous for any opponent. They’ll have to go 12 rounds of exhaustion to beat him since he keeps coming forward even after being hit.

[The Big Dunn]

I don't consider him an ATG. He is a HOF'er without question.