Comments Thread For: Wilder on Possibly Killing Breazeale: Not One Bit of Remorse

[Ake-Dawg]

He’s certainly raising his profile, but thats’s easy to do if you act like a repulsive fool (see Adrien Broner). And that’s what Wilder is doing when he talks about crippling fathers in front of their children and killing men in the ring without remorse. It will certainly turn heads for obvious reasons. The thing is that it casts the sport in a bad light and ultimately makes your fans look like idiots. No doubt it’s why you used to see a hell of a lot more Wilder fans on these boards than you do now. You’re basically one of the last remaining ones along with Rexy and that WBC/WBF conglomerate of industry insiders (lol).

As to your point about increasing his revenue... Wilder turned down a guaranteed $20m to fight Breazeale so that he can fight the same dude on free-to-air tv for an undisclosed fee. The suggestion is that he’s making SIGNIFICANTLY less than he could be making.

So not only is he alienating anyone remotely sensible, he seems to be shying away from his first actual chance to make serious money and fight for the title.

His reasoning [paraphrased] “I’m a businessman, how can you expect me to do a deal when I don’t know all of the information”
Throws his previous position “Joshua’s a coward he turned down my $50m without details 24-hour only offer” into sharp relief as being hypocritical and fake.

He then talks about people loving him (please love me, people) because he’s the “realest” guy in the game.

The guy’s a clown. You seem frankly too intelligent to be supporting him, given that I’ve seen you using words which extend to three syllables.

There is so much to this post that I couldn't imagine responding to it all in short order. I will say this, boxing is a violent sport with not the slightest rules on the so call class that certain fans seem to want to impose. With that said, its interesting that a fighter who respects his opponent in the ring, is charitable, a proper citizen, and is a proper father and mate to his lady is seen as casting a bad light on the sport. At worst he says some things eye catching in interviews.

I see a lot of fighter fans and less boxing fans these days. The nationalism and skin color bias is more prevalent today than it was in the golden years. What I am is intelligent enough to see through the superficial and appreciate boxing for what it really is. A sport where to gladiators get in the ring to cause more bodily harm to his opponent than is caused to him through skill will or brute force.

[Ake-Dawg]

Well the post I was responding to did and you was responding to that. Wilders profile has been largely boosted by trying to make AJ look as though he is ducking and also using Fury's lineal title, no one is paying to watch him lose because the people that would pay to watch him (Americans) do not care at this point and Brits do not have pay to watch him. Plus people have a only paid to watch him anyway so there is no way to tell how much.

Another factor in the increase to his offers is DAZN have realised they are going to have to spend megamoney to coax fighters away so they've been offering big money since they got Canelo.

So Wilder did the right thing and boosted his profile with Fury and the Market conditions improved vastly since the 15 mil. No one is paying to watch him loose as no one pays to watch him in terms of he's not on PPV, he's mostly holding that belt to high ransom.

He was just on ppv where people tuned in to see him lose. And I don't think that it's a stretch to presume that people will tune in at 4 a.m. in the UK to see him lose. I can't say how many people that is, but they exist.

[alexguiness]

The only thing Wilder murders is fresh air.

[Jax teller]

He was just on ppv where people tuned in to see him lose. And I don't think that it's a stretch to presume that people will tune in at 4 a.m. in the UK to see him lose. I can't say how many people that is, but they exist.

Big whoop he had one PPV, his next fight is not PPV.

I think it is a big stretch to think Brits will be tuning in most the UK don't know or care about him and I'm not sure loads will even be paying to watch AJ v Miller, I won't be surprised if his UK PPV figure more than half for that bout. People tuning in are gonna be boxing fans likely to watch already and this is no where near generating Mayweather money as per my original point.

The only reason you think Wilder is so disliked by Brits is because you see AJ and Brit boxing fans responding to boxing articles on a boxing forum. Most British people don't even see what Wilder or Hearn are saying it's just not in the general news.

[MDPopescu]

Big whoop he had one PPV, his next fight is not PPV.
...

... he just can't make PPVs without Fury or Joshua...

[Jax teller]

... he just can't make PPVs without Fury or Joshua...

"He Mayweather doe "

[MDPopescu]

"He Mayweather doe "

... he ain't, doe...

[Ake-Dawg]

Big whoop he had one PPV, his next fight is not PPV.

I think it is a big stretch to think Brits will be tuning in most the UK don't know or care about him and I'm not sure loads will even be paying to watch AJ v Miller, I won't be surprised if his UK PPV figure more than half for that bout. People tuning in are gonna be boxing fans likely to watch already and this is no where near generating Mayweather money as per my original point.

The only reason you think Wilder is so disliked by Brits is because you see AJ and Brit boxing fans responding to boxing articles on a boxing forum. Most British people don't even see what Wilder or Hearn are saying it's just not in the general news.

"He Mayweather doe "

... he ain't, doe...

I still believe that there will be UK fans who tune in to see Wilder possibly lose. Massive amounts, no. Further no one is claiming that Wilder is Mayweather or pulls Mayweather numbers. The message was simpky that Team Wilder is applying the Mayweather strategy of generating interest in his fights by playing the heel/villain to a certain demographic of fans.

[MPX309]

Don't lie and don't twist it.

AJ said he may or may not allow him in the ring. It was a unification fight for AJ, he had the right to control the spotlight and was within his rights to have final say over Deyonce promoting HIMSELF on AJs show.

He also said if he and Deyonce had a signed contract to fight he would definitely be allowed in the ring.

As it turns out, Deyonce never really wanted the fight so AJ was right to have his reservations.

Deyonce ducked attending the fight because he was scared of AJ, Whyte and Chisora being there.

Yeah I saw that too, and it makes sense. No point letting him in the ring if there's no contract signed.

[Jax teller]

I still believe that there will be UK fans who tune in to see Wilder possibly lose. Massive amounts, no. Further no one is claiming that Wilder is Mayweather or pulls Mayweather numbers. The message was simpky that Team Wilder is applying the Mayweather strategy of generating interest in his fights by playing the heel/villain to a certain demographic of fans.

It's minimal numbers and will have minimal effect on his wallet especially in comparison to how the boom in the US market affects it.

His offers have increased because DAZN want to attract the American subscribers via an undisputed bout not because DAZN want to appease the 'British mob'. Look at who is offering the money.