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  • chrisJS
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    #21
    Originally posted by whoseyourdaddy
    So is weird that all those judging points apply here on this fight, yet in the canelo vs ggg first fight, GGG missed 800+ punches and averaged a pathetic 22% connect rate, while Canelo’s connect rate at 44% and higher power punches connect, yet non of you fools like to bring this things up when it suits you, but not when you’re losing the argument. Consistency, you guys lack consistency and credibility.
    Likewise when you likely gave him no credit and scored the fight for the fighter you wanted to.

    I haven’t gotten around to watching Munguia’s fight yet so I didn’t score it. I was pointing out that boxing is actually scored on clean punching, effective aggression and clean punching.

    Your punch stats appear to be fake news. Golovkin landed more punches and he landed at 31%. So a 2% difference only.


    30 of 150 is 20% whereas 30 of 50 is 60%. IMO 60% is larger than 20% and a 40% difference is larger than a 2% difference based on fact and math.
    Last edited by chrisJS; 04-15-2019, 11:01 PM.

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    • PunchyPotorff
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      #22
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      Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
      As the numbers indicate, Hogan was way more accurate than Munguia. In my book, that counts for a lot. Hogan was robbed.

      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
      Fu.cking ignorant
      Accuracy does not count , it's the same.if you thrown 150 in a round and landed 30, and if you rival thrown 50 and landed 30 it's the same to judges
      Counts a lot in my book. And BTW, the fighter who is more accurate is the one who's usually less damaged at the end of the fight. Go back to sleep. Munguia hit a wall. That's the story from this fight. Hogan's stock went up, Munguia's went down.

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #23
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        Likewise when you likely gave him no credit and scored the fight for the fighter you wanted to.

        I haven’t gotten around to watching Munguia’s fight yet so I didn’t score it. I was pointing out that boxing is actually scored on clean punching, effective aggression and clean punching.

        Your punch stats appear to be fake news. Golovkin landed more punches and he landed at 31%. So a 2% difference only.


        30 of 150 is 20% whereas 30 of 50 is 60%. IMO 60% is larger than 20% and a 40% difference is larger than a 2% difference based on fact and math.
        Canelo landed more power punches and he had much more accuracy in power punches than GGG

        And thats the point, people still crying about a robbery in the second fight when the reallity is that Canelo won a close but deserved fight.

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        • ramses07
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          #24
          7-5 Hogan in Mexico is no robbery

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          • _Rexy_
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            #25
            The fact that the hometown DAZN announcers said during the 11th “I hope Munguia has a rematch clause” says it all.

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            • chrisJS
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              #26
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
              Canelo landed more power punches and he had much more accuracy in power punches than GGG

              And thats the point, people still crying about a robbery in the second fight when the reallity is that Canelo won a close but deserved fight.
              He landed four more power points at less than 10% difference. Even the re-match Golovkin landed more punches and the % difference was 5%.

              Hardly 30/150 at 20%vs. 30/50 at 60% is it?

              I just think you scored based on who you were rooting for especially if it involves a Mexican. Most people score how they want to be honest. Suggesting that accuracy isn’t remotely important with an example 20% is = 60% and then citing a very small difference 4 punches/9% in a certain fight involving your favorite fighter (or one of them) proves that.

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              • Mexican_Puppet
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                #27
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                He landed four more power points at less than 10% difference. Even the re-match Golovkin landed more punches and the % difference was 5%.

                Hardly 30/150 at 20%vs. 30/50 at 60% is it?

                I just think you scored based on who you were rooting for especially if it involves a Mexican. Most people score how they want to be honest. Suggesting that accuracy isn’t remotely important with an example 20% is = 60% and then citing a very small difference 4 punches/9% in a certain fight involving your favorite fighter (or one of them) proves that.
                But GGG thrown almost 80 more power punches, Canelo had better accuracy.

                Nope, i scored 115-113 the Sor Rungvisai vs Estrada fight and I was rooting for Juan.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  But GGG thrown almost 80 more power punches, Canelo had better accuracy.

                  Nope, i scored 115-113 the Sor Rungvisai vs Estrada fight and I was rooting for Juan.
                  He had 4% better accuracy.

                  In your opinion what is a bigger difference in accuracy. 4% or 40% (from your hypothetical that accuracy doesn't matter at all)?

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                  • Mexican_Puppet
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    He had 4% better accuracy.

                    In your opinion what is a bigger difference in accuracy. 4% or 40% (from your hypothetical that accuracy doesn't matter at all)?
                    My point is that GGG thrown almost 80 more power punches than Nelo

                    So, Canelo was better by a little.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                      My point is that GGG thrown almost 80 more power punches than Nelo

                      So, Canelo was better by a little.
                      Doesn't that contradict your point about accuracy mattering not one bit at all?

                      So what is it? Accuracy matters only when conveniently favoring your wanted outcome?

                      You said this

                      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                      Fu.cking ignorant


                      Accuracy does not count , it's the same.if you thrown 150 in a round and landed 30, and if you rival thrown 50 and landed 30 it's the same to judges
                      But now your saying accuracy does count when it's a total four more punches with a difference of less than 5%?

                      What is it? Can you see where this may confuse people as to what your scoring views are?

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