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  • bigdunny1
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    #31
    What problems do people think Canelo has with Southpaws? He's fought the following southpaws (excluding fights in Mexico and only looking at fights once he started fighting in the US)...Rhodes, Trout, Lara, Kirkland. He's dropped 3 of those guys (only Lara hasn't hit the canvas) and knocked out 2 of them, Trout would of been knocked out as well if he didn't QUIT in a open scoring fight. Canelo didn't have any problems with Lara because his stance it was Lara didn't want to fight and literally ran from Canelo. Laughing at anyone thinking it had anything to do him being a southpaw.

    And finally do idiots realize that Jacobs ISN'T even a southpaw lol He's fought his entire career and is better in a traditional stance. Sure he switched a couple times here and there but he's more effective in a normal stance anyway. I see no struggles in Canelo's career with Southpaw stance he's dropped all he's faced except 1 and that's with full time Southpaws not a part timer like Jacobs.
    Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-11-2019, 12:17 PM.

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    • Drew Bundini Br
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      #32
      Originally posted by kushking
      1 judge,wow. As i said whos your favorite fighters? I can guarantee they had tons of 12 rd victories they didn't deserve. I can tell you just hate canelo & are biased when you say lara won then claim ggg was robbed. what a joke. Btw canelo landed more body shots at a higher disparity vs ggg than he did vs lara who he obliterated with power shots/body shots,funny how they both turned into 1 dimensional headhunter jabbers/"runners "v canelo despite normally loving the body work. Compubox shows ca nelo schooled ggg despite it being somewhat close. He landed at an unprecedented rate & landed every combo in his arsenal all night long
      Let's be clear. I am not hating on CANELO at all. I'm calling it for what I witnessed. I have 1.CRAWFORD 2. CANELO and I'm embarrassed that so.e rate LOMO ahead of him. However, CANELO still must dominate a lil better moving forward to separate himself to go along with his star power. My favorite current fighter is SPENCE.

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      • bigdunny1
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        #33
        Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
        I thought LARA definately beat CANELO. The TROUT fight was pretty damn close also.
        Lara refused to fight and got doubled up in power shots as he sprinted away from canelo all fight. That fight had nothing to do with southpaw. The Trout fight was close early on until Trout got dropped. He was already bambi legged multiple times but when he finally dropped. After peeling himself off the canvas he knew the score cards (it was a open scoring fight) and QUIT with 1/3 of the fight left to go. Once he quit and Canelo knew the scores as well and he took his foot off the gas knowing he had the fight already won and a fighter in front of him too scared to risk getting dropped again or knocked out. Trout went into survival mode just to make the final bell in a fight he knew he was losing. Fighters cry after fights screaming robbery saying I wish I knew the scores I would of fought like this or like that. Well Trout actually knew and phuking QUIT. This is one of the biggest problems with open scoring idiots think oh this is great but actually more times then not it sucks the drama out of fights late because 1 fighter quits and the other guy goes into prevent defense because he knows I already have the fight won. Open Scoring and Trout quiting saved him from getting knocked out or at minimum getting dropped again that fight and losing by a wider margin. Canelo had him figured out and he would of taken more punishment if not for open scoring.

        Listen to Trout in the ring after the fight never once saying he was robbed, having no answers for what Canelo did saying he was the better man, quicker he shocked us. Never once screamed robbery or that he thought he won the fight in any post interviews after the fight. Got idiots screaming Canelo didn't win when Trout doesn't even think he won that fight LMAO

        Last edited by bigdunny1; 04-11-2019, 12:07 PM.

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        • Jab jab boom
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          #34
          Originally posted by icha
          so you think this is the same canelo that fought trout and lara??
          even canelos detractors are aknowledging how much he has improved....
          by the way i dont think canelo struggled with trout, he slowed down in the later part of the fight due to the open scoring and that made the fight closer than it should have, but dont take my word, here is trout's : “Canelo shocked us,” Trout said. “He boxed a lot better than I thought. He moved a lot better than I thought. Not that I underestimated him, we just prepared for a totally different fighter.
          “He was the better man. He was quicker. He was stronger. I have no excuses for tonight. He was the better man.”
          I don't think he's improved as much as you're making it seem. When he was younger, he looked just as impressive vs lower level competition. So the way he looked vs guys like cintron, baldomir, lopez angulo and Kirkland is the same he's looked against khan, Smith Chavez Jr and Rocky fielding. But, he squeaked by trout, got a fortunate decision over Lara. Now since then, the only elite competition he's faced has been the older and smaller Cotto (who I think gave him a much closer fight than the judges scored it) and his 2 fights with ggg (and I didn't have him winning either of those fights... Although a draw in the 2nd fight would've been reasonable). So based on these performances, I'm not seeing a fighter who is levels beyond what he was a few yrs ago when he fought Lara.

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            #35
            Originally posted by boliodogs
            Dream on because that is not going to happen. Canelo has an iron jaw just like GGG and Jacobs could not hurt GGG. GGG could not stop Canelo or drop him in 24 rounds and he punches harder than Jacobs. No miracles for Jacobs in May. His destiny is to get his ass kicked and move up to 168.
            Stop it, people thought Peter Quillin had a good chin but look what Jacobs did to him!

            Unlike ggg, Jacobs has speed mixed with a reach advantage! He’s gonna snipe Canelo and bring the Mexican down!

            He knows about the judges so he won’t allow Canelo to see the final bell! Ggg was too slow and too predictable with his offense!

            Jacobs can switch it up unlike Golovkin, hope Canelo ready for a surprise cuz Jacobs coming out party is on May!

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              #36
              Originally posted by mawoodhouse
              Canelo doesn't have the power to trouble Jacobs. Jacobs wins this easily on points, but gets robbed by the judges. Another robbery by Canelo. You heard it hear first.
              Jacobs cant KO.anyone??? He can always do that?

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              • Verus
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                #37
                Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                and that's why not too much value should be placed on him making this statement. I've yet to see him be impressive vs a good fighter that is southpaw. Kirkland is a face first brawler. Trout and lara are very good boxers but I think being southpaw also played a role. That's why Canelo was only able to landed about 9 jabs vs Lara.
                There is no doubt a question mark about how Canelo handles southpaws in general. My sense of it that you have to be really good to give Canelo problems whether you fight from a right or left-handed stance. I know Jacobs can fight well left-handed, but not as well as from the right side. Unless Danny brings his A game from the left-handed stance, he is better off fighting right-handed. We will have to see how it plays out.

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                • Verus
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  God I hope not??? I knew Kirkland stood ZERO chance when Wolfe wasn't training him.

                  Dougie Fisch actually spoke about the Lara/Trout fights when someone tried clowing them in Mondays mailbag
                  Not having Ann Wolfe didn't help Kirkland's cause, but he would have been hammered by Canelo even if Ann and the late Eddie Futch were both in his corner. He was tailored made for Canelo. I just don't know how effective Jacobs can be against Canelo fighting as a southpaw. Lara was effective in part because he literally ran away from Canelo like a sprinter. That was not classic boxing side to side movement. I just don't see Danny Jacobs wearing track shoes. Danny will fight. He will move but not run. Canelo will figure Jacobs out in the first 3 or 4 rounds unless he is at better fighting southpaw than I think he is.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    So you are saying that the Vegas judges robbed Canelo in the 2nd fight and were unfair to him and kind to GGG. You are saying instead of a close split decision Canelo should have won by maybe 116 to 112 on all three cards. Yeah, right. Your honest opinion that Canelo CLEARLY won 7 rounds is CLEARLY wrong. Most viewers thought GGG edged out the 2nd fight and clearly won the first fight. Your statement that GGG got to hand pick his favorite judges is pure BS. You obviously have a strong dislike for GGG and a bias against him and that has been evident in your past posts. It becomes even more obvious when you are OK with Byrd giving Canelo 10 of the 12 rounds to Canelo in the first fight. Canelo gets the scoring advantage in Vegas fights and that's obvious. One judge gave him a draw against Mayweather. Jacobs can beat him on points if he wins clearly. If Jacobs deserves to win a close one he will lose a close one just as what happened to GGG in the 2nd fight.
                    Most boxers, trainers thought Canelo won

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                    • whoseyourdaddy
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by boliodogs
                      So you are saying that the Vegas judges robbed Canelo in the 2nd fight and were unfair to him and kind to GGG. You are saying instead of a close split decision Canelo should have won by maybe 116 to 112 on all three cards. Yeah, right. Your honest opinion that Canelo CLEARLY won 7 rounds is CLEARLY wrong. Most viewers thought GGG edged out the 2nd fight and clearly won the first fight. Your statement that GGG got to hand pick his favorite judges is pure BS. You obviously have a strong dislike for GGG and a bias against him and that has been evident in your past posts. It becomes even more obvious when you are OK with Byrd giving Canelo 10 of the 12 rounds to Canelo in the first fight. Canelo gets the scoring advantage in Vegas fights and that's obvious. One judge gave him a draw against Mayweather. Jacobs can beat him on points if he wins clearly. If Jacobs deserves to win a close one he will lose a close one just as what happened to GGG in the 2nd fight.
                      That's not debatable, is a fact that GGG and Abel hand picked not only the judges but the Ref. and the gloves Canelo should wear the night of the fight, hell GGG went as far as to ban the Mexican National anthem from that fight alleging it would hype up the Mexican crowd, go google the articles here on this site, and others that I can not named for obvious reasons but they are there to corroborate what I'm saying.

                      So yes in deed GGG hand picked all those items in second Canelo fight.

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