Crawford CANNOT be considered P4P anything if Khan takes him the distance.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #61
    Originally posted by mathed
    Crawford is gonna smash Khan, but I wanna know how long Spence is gonna keep ducking him after that?
    Remember, Arum says it's Al Haymon's fault and that Spence does want the fight.

    Reality is what Floyd once said: nobody really wants to do business with Bob Arum. Which is why it's a mystery that so many guys choose to (re) sign with him - like Bradley, Manny, Crawford, etc. It took Manny getting UD'd by a school teacher before he got a clue despite being warned about Arum many years before.

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      #62
      Remember what I said, folks. Crawford needs to turn in the same OR BETTER performance against Khan as Spence did against Mikey - since you all think Khan's a bum, this should be easy work and a short night. That's what I'm looking for out of Crawford.

      IF - and I stress that word, IF - Khan takes him past 10, this man is NO WAY P4P...if you guys are right and Khan's a bum.

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      • Roadblock
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        #63
        Enough of the IF threads, its like the only time you can say a fighter wins then after the fight its silence.

        If is wishful thinking nothing more !

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          #64
          Originally posted by revelated
          That's what's interesting about this fight, really. I said it before - you got a guy in Khan who's laser fast with the shots, great timing, etc. but falls victim to his own mistakes. Then you got a guy in Crawford who's only real trouble spot was against a guy who could throw nearly as fast as Khan in Gamboa.

          Crawford sets you up for mistakes and takes advantage. Khan has a boxing pedigree and blistering speed. It's actually a very good fight.

          But...more importantly, it's a great test for Crawford.

          For you see, Crawford only really has one success vector: a knockout before Round 10, or a clearly acceptable stoppage (not that BS that happened to Horn). As in, Khan is just getting overwhelmed and dominated before the fight is stopped. Danny Garcia got him out of there in 4 rounds? Crawford should do AT LEAST as good if he's a top welter.

          If Khan lasts until the championship rounds and has won at least half of them, there's just no way Crawford can be anyone's P4P. It's your opinion but come on. That'd be like Spence dropping rounds to Mikey - just shouldn't happen (and didn't).
          Syles make fights, i dont understand your logic sorry. look at the pac vs horn fight pacquiao is p4p or was yet struggled highly with horn. Crawford went through horn fairly easy. That doesn't mean pac isnt p4p he just struggled with horns style crawford didnt. I had pac winning a close fight in that one.

          but if the fight goes 12 like the Spence v garcia recently i wouldn't think any less of crawford just as i dont feel any different about Spence after he went 12. If khan can see the shots coming like in the maidana fight he could last 12 rounds i dont think he'll win though the 2 year break wasn't kind to his reflexes or footspeed. Crawford's boxing IQ is also a significant problem for khan.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Larky101
            Syles make fights, i dont understand your logic sorry. look at the pac vs horn fight pacquiao is p4p or was yet struggled highly with horn.
            Manny had already decisively beaten world class, named, high visibility fighters like Erik Morales. He had a laundry list of notable names he beat with veritable ease.

            Crawford unified 140. Okay? And of who he beat, the only real NAME on that list is Gamboa - the only guy to wobble Crawford to this day.

            Danny Garcia got Khan out of there in 4 rounds. That's the measuring stick for Crawford - he should be able to do AS GOOD if not better than that.

            And if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's not a bad fighter, but he can't be P4P if he can't do what Danny MF'n Garcia can do to a BETTER, LESS KNOCKED OUT version of Khan!

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              #66
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              Enough of the IF threads, its like the only time you can say a fighter wins then after the fight its silence.

              If is wishful thinking nothing more !
              Wrong. I said the same thing about Horn and gave Crawford credit after the fight - even though Horn was never hurt and the ref had a trigger finger, it's still a win over a guy who beat Manny Pacquiao.

              I always give credit where it's due. I won't call someone P4P that can't do what Danny Garcia did with ease.

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                #67
                Originally posted by revelated
                Manny had already decisively beaten world class, named, high visibility fighters like Erik Morales. He had a laundry list of notable names he beat with veritable ease.

                Crawford unified 140. Okay? And of who he beat, the only real NAME on that list is Gamboa - the only guy to wobble Crawford to this day.

                Danny Garcia got Khan out of there in 4 rounds. That's the measuring stick for Crawford - he should be able to do AS GOOD if not better than that.

                And if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's not a bad fighter, but he can't be P4P if he can't do what Danny MF'n Garcia can do to a BETTER, LESS KNOCKED OUT version of Khan!
                I can see where you're coming from man, the version of khan now compared to where he was is worlds apart based on his last fight. I can see crawford taking him out but maybe midway through like round 7 - 8

                My pac comparison didnt make sense looking back on it hahaha

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                  #68
                  benavidez took crawford the distance (round 12 is "distance" for me) and hes still P4P ..

                  Spence went distance with mikey whos 2 divisions lighter sooo

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                    #69
                    If Khan wins he becomes undisputed p4p no.1, an automatic ATG and top 20 p4p of all time...

                    Sounds fair ?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by blue_dolphin
                      benavidez took crawford the distance (round 12 is "distance" for me) and hes still P4P ..
                      Benavidez did NOT go the distance, that was a knockout. Go the distance is you hear that final bell.

                      Of every fighter on the current roster, Amir Khan is the one guy people don't expect to hear the final bell anymore with.

                      Okay then - so then the expectation is that Crawford gets him out of there.

                      Danny Garcia only took 4 rounds to remove a BETTER version of Khan.

                      So why does a Crawford get a pass for failing to get a LESSER version of Khan out of there?


                      Originally posted by Dempsey19
                      If Khan wins he becomes undisputed p4p no.1, an automatic ATG and top 20 p4p of all time...

                      Sounds fair ?
                      Just like what happened with Jeff Horn when he beat Manny in a fight where Manny didn't show up. Yes. Same thing.

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