Comments Thread For: Wilder To Return To Basics For Breazeale, Still Guarantees KO

[Noelanthony]

wtf ?

you sure are a weird little fruit

that tells me why your son is twerking in the mirror

You are reaching out to someone , who is it? If you are reading this and this twat has bombarded you with seductive messages he will not stop. He laughs repeatedly and smiles at his own posts it’s unnerving.

[champion4ever]

why do you guys try so hard to continue to reuse illogical arguments that have been shot down multiples times? what exactly are you gaining from this? it's confusing because you as a fan will definitely be losing at least $60 - $90 from it going to PPV. the whole point of dazn is the guaranteed money, regardless of subscriber count. trying to muddy the waters or twist the argument away from this basic point is just clownish.

i suppose we'll see what the ratings are on may 18/19.

While that may be very well true. However, DAZN does limit the amount of money the fighters can make on a Pay Per view platform.

Sure, the $19.99 price is good for us boxing fans/consumers. However, at the same time it marginalizes the purses of the fighters.

For instance, Pac and Money May made upwards to at least $200mil a piece on Pay Per View.

[aboutfkntime]

Try and be more original you have wrote the same thing 4 times now you twit ,it wasn’t funny the first time lol

ok then, all jokes aside.....

1) grow up
2) stop making DUMB excuses to justify why your current "fave" will not put himself in harms way..... just like you tell the g-string's

come on man, gtfoh..... you know they ducked Wilder TWICE last year, you have admitted it..... so stop shamelessly forgetting those facts as you pretend to wonder why Wilder is going his own path

1) he has received much BETTER advice than you or Eddie Hearn are capable of giving him..... advice from two of the leading professionals in the game, both of whom were responsible for guiding Mayweathers phenomenal career

2) there is no guarantee whatsoever that Team Bullshlt have done a miraculous 180 and suddenly decided that they want to fight Wilder..... you did not see the contract, or hear the terms, nothing..... so gtfoh with your forgetful convenient bullshlt kid

only a few months ago, they passed on that fight when they had Wilder on the hook for 15m..... so GTFOH with your "things have changed, so now I can blame Wilder" rubbish..... grow up, and smarten up..... because you are fooling nobody

[aboutfkntime]

While that may be very well true. However, DAZN does limit the amount of money the fighters can make on a Pay Per view platform.

Sure, the $19.99 price is good for us boxing fans/consumers. However, at the same time it marginalizes the purses of the fighters.

For instance, Pac and Money May made upwards to at least $200mil a piece on Pay Per View.

speaking of PPV, and interestingly.....

the guys who advised Wilder to make his own path, for now..... and who supported Wilder making his own path, for now..... were ALL involved in that fight, the biggest PPV fight of all time

Noelanthony, you are just a whiny kid, who is full of silly excuses..... who decided to pick himself up, brush himself off..... and start telling grown men who are professional fighters what they should do with their career

you fcuked up when you admitted that they ducked Wilder TWICE last year..... you do know that, right..... ?

NOTHING that happened after that can miraculously be blamed on the other guy, you dumb kid..... your position is now clearly untenable

should you really take time out of your busy day, to give financial/business advice to professional adults..... when your kid is so fcuked up that he twerks in the mirror?

[Alan Smithee]

We'll be here to talk BS about this and that fighter till the cows come home, my friend.

Thanks again Red. Sometimes therapy comes from something as simple as discussing boxing!

[that g]

While that may be very well true. However, DAZN does limit the amount of money the fighters can make on a Pay Per view platform.

Sure, the $19.99 price is good for us boxing fans/consumers. However, at the same time it marginalizes the purses of the fighters.

For instance, Pac and Money May made upwards to at least $200mil a piece on Pay Per View.

what are you even talking about?
if there was a fight that could generate that amount of money, dazn would pony up because it would be worth the amount of subscribers.
19.99 and/or 8.99 a month does not marginalize anyone, well except for showtime and fox.

you are basically trying to argue that wilder-joshua can bring in may-pac money. as things stand, there's no way, and you are being disingenuous and downright lying in trying to argue otherwise.

which brings me to my previous question: why lie and twist facts on wilder's behalf? what exactly do you benefit from it? its not like he cares who you are anyway.

[champion4ever]

what are you even talking about?
if there was a fight that could generate that amount of money, dazn would pony up because it would be worth the amount of subscribers.
19.99 and/or 8.99 a month does not marginalize anyone, well except for showtime and fox.

you are basically trying to argue that wilder-joshua can bring in may-pac money. as things stand, there's no way, and you are being disingenuous and downright lying in trying to argue otherwise.

which brings me to my previous question: why lie and twist facts on wilder's behalf? what exactly do you benefit from it? its not like he cares who you are anyway.

What are you even talking about? DAZN offered Wilder a $40Mil offer whereas Wilder offered Joshua a $50Mil offer tentatively scheduled for Showtime Pay Per View Boxing. On DAZN; There's a glass ceiling and a hard salary cap with a flat-fee. Whereas on Pay Per View if promoted properly, the opportunities for the fighters are both boundless and limitless.

Yes, as a boxing fan DAZN is good for us consumers. Paying only $20 per month is a good deal but at the same time it also marginalizes the fighters purse splits because their are no guarantees or percentages. You only receive a flat-fee which is inelastic no matter how large DAZN subscription base is.

Therefore, contrary to popular opinion Pay Per View is not dead. In addition, it is not going away anytime soon or in the very near future and is here to stay.

[Noelanthony]

ok then, all jokes aside.....

1) grow up
2) stop making DUMB excuses to justify why your current "fave" will not put himself in harms way..... just like you tell the g-string's

come on man, gtfoh..... you know they ducked Wilder TWICE last year, you have admitted it..... so stop shamelessly forgetting those facts as you pretend to wonder why Wilder is going his own path

1) he has received much BETTER advice than you or Eddie Hearn are capable of giving him..... advice from two of the leading professionals in the game, both of whom were responsible for guiding Mayweathers phenomenal career

2) there is no guarantee whatsoever that Team Bullshlt have done a miraculous 180 and suddenly decided that they want to fight Wilder..... you did not see the contract, or hear the terms, nothing..... so gtfoh with your forgetful convenient bullshlt kid

only a few months ago, they passed on that fight when they had Wilder on the hook for 15m..... so GTFOH with your "things have changed, so now I can blame Wilder" rubbish..... grow up, and smarten up..... because you are fooling nobody

I see it’s very hard for your brain to grasp simple stuff all we have to do is ask anyone to refer back to Jonah Lomu and see how wet behind the ears you are. That S#hit was comical .

Wilder accepted the 15 million deal on social media..... wait Joshua also said on Social media that he would accept 50 million and what happened? However, before you start frothing at the mouth did Winkel throughout the whole negotiations act in any way that was outlandish?...... I know your tunnel vision thought process so you will respond “ but there was no wording in the contract about date or venue” there was also no wording in the Fury vs Wilder contract yet they still announced the fight as being done

Now I’m aware there are certain words and phrases that set you off so I will thread carefully you wacko

Al Haymon has hundreds of fighters and has made a success of many fighters that were even average but Winkel your sugar daddy has done absolutely nothing for Wilder and he should be sacked with immediate effect.

However, Wilder ( not his team) definitely looked like the fighter that was more keen to lock Horns. I can’t take that away from you. So let’s go along with your history of events AJ ducked Wilder twice with lowball offers so you feel he should take his own path now? Yet 2 months ago you said if Wilder received over 35% he should take the fight because Hearn is serious if he offered that amount. Now you have changed your tune. So if you have in just 2 months why can’t Team AJ change in 6 months from ducking to now being ready to fight? Not possible I know, keep blowing Winkel , suck it easy fella

[Noelanthony]

speaking of PPV, and interestingly.....

the guys who advised Wilder to make his own path, for now..... and who supported Wilder making his own path, for now..... were ALL involved in that fight, the biggest PPV fight of all time

Noelanthony, you are just a whiny kid, who is full of silly excuses..... who decided to pick himself up, brush himself off..... and start telling grown men who are professional fighters what they should do with their career

you fcuked up when you admitted that they ducked Wilder TWICE last year..... you do know that, right..... ?

NOTHING that happened after that can miraculously be blamed on the other guy, you dumb kid..... your position is now clearly untenable

should you really take time out of your busy day, to give financial/business advice to professional adults..... when your kid is so fcuked up that he twerks in the mirror?

You are addressing someone and talking to me.....weird. Keep my name out your mouth you wacko..lol..... I have a task for you , show me one post where I discuss or criticise Wilder in terms of financially. I never criticised him for turning down the 120 million I just referred to the situation as prove Team AJ are ready for the fight. I have my own money and do not need to focus on anyone else’s . Also the negotiations I do not get into debates about it and I challenge anyone to come forward and tell me if I have. That doesn’t bother me as I can not prove or disprove what really happened. I will leave that to you to own the floor on that.

I talk s#hit on Wilder about what comes out of his mouth and his bird legs and that’s about it and that AJ will knock him out but understand anyone that says Wilder will knock him out. I’m not a vigilante like you who is fighting for the truth and anything I say I quote it as fact

Now as passionate as I am about this point I understand it is not a fact but Wilder is as explosive as AJ if not far more, he is charismatic , probably has a far more appealing story why he got into boxing yet nobody knows. He should be a commercial success and that falls solely on his management. Haymon as I stated has hundreds of fighters and deals to attend to, what the hell is Winkel doing apart from Sticking his C#ock down your throat. I’m not buying “well we have so many sports in the states “because I can name commercially successful fighters. Look at Wilder’s popularity now thanks to Fury and AJ nothing to do with his team. With all their successful PPV experience especially your hubby how has he helped Wilder exactly?

[Noelanthony]

Thanks again Red. Sometimes therapy comes from something as simple as discussing boxing!

Insulting Wackos help also don’t deny it.lol look what our conversation has started I have this scumbag trying to come at my 8 year old but there is a back story. This Wacko learned that I bought my son a Rolex sub and I won’t deny his knowledge on the mechanism of watches was impressive so I assumed well he is successful too because you educate yourself on things that is out of your price range so I assumed he was successful too( a gambler is not successful we both know this but humour me) However, he probably rocks a Casio and was just envious of him from back then.