Are people trolling when they try to hype Khan in 2019?

[Curtis Harper]

Crawford might beat him into retirement.

His lip flapping has put him in quite the bind.

[alexguiness]

Alexander
Maidana
Maligianni
Canelo
Judah (prime)
Garcia

Ask these guys if he's sloppy.

Alexander, blown up 140 guy, addiction to opiates.
Maidana, good win but went life and death.
Maligiani, feather fisted.
Canelo, brutal KO
Judah, NOT prime but decent win
Garcia, beaten comprehensively.

When you examine his wins its nowhere near as good as some people say.

[-Kev-]

Sorry but those are some shabby names, either at the time he fought them or just not that good.

I know fights happen in the ring and not on paper BUT, I can easily see Bud beating up every guy Khan did. I'm talking about really easy.

Face 1st Maidana ?!?!
Devon who never amounted to anything ?
Why is Kotelnyk mentioned ? He's a smaller, less talented version David Lemieux.
Paulie !!!!
Judah !!!!
Collazo !!!!
Algieri and Diaz are extreme ''meh's'' at best.

Bud beats up on those guys without needing a training camp. Imho.

Of course he can, but Crawford is a great fighter. Khan is just a good fighter. Khan isn't going to beat Crawford. But that doesn't mean that Khan's resume isn't decent and that Khan is an accomplished fighter.


Also the fighters you're laughing at were world class, top 10, fighters, some of them top 10 fighters in their weight class at the time. I'm not sure how serious I should take this discussion because I don't know if you're trolling and if you comprehend how hard boxing is.

The rankings of the guys you're putting laughs next to:
Kotelnyk - #3 at 140 (Ring 2009)
Malignaggi - #5 at 140 (Ring 2010)
Maidana - #4 at 140 (Ring 2010)
Judah - #6 at 140 (Ring 2011)
Khan vs Alexander (Neither were ranked in the top 10 at WW yet)
Algieri was also not ranked at WW because he had just lost to Pacquiao at 147 while being ranked #3 at JWW.


I don't think so called boxing fans can even begin to understand how many pro boxers there are in the world and what percentage of those actually make it on tv and make a name for themselves. It takes a lot of talent to make it, and if you don't have the boxing talent, you have to possess some other natural ability like crazy stamina, power, speed or something that makes you have an equalizer over an opponent (Wilder, Maidana come to mind).

The only way one can truly understand how hard pro boxing is, is to try it themselves.

Khan is a good fighter with a decent resume. If your losses are only to other good fighters, then that's nothing to laugh at.

Being "great" at boxing is praised for a reason, and great boxers are influential for a reason, that's because what they do is hard.

[Curtis Harper]

Of course he can, but Crawford is a great fighter. Khan is just a good fighter. Khan isn't going to beat Crawford. But that doesn't mean that Khan's resume isn't decent and that Khan is an accomplished fighter.


Also the fighters you're laughing at were world class, top 10, fighters, some of them top 10 fighters in their weight class at the time. I'm not sure how serious I should take this discussion because I don't know if you're trolling and if you comprehend how hard boxing is.

The rankings of the guys you're putting laughs next to:
Kotelnyk - #3 at 140 (Ring 2009)
Malignaggi - #5 at 140 (Ring 2010)
Maidana - #4 at 140 (Ring 2010)
Judah - #6 at 140 (Ring 2011)
Khan vs Alexander (Neither were ranked in the top 10 at WW yet)
Algieri was also not ranked at WW because he had just lost to Pacquiao at 147 while being ranked #3 at JWW.


I don't think so called boxing fans can even begin to understand how many pro boxers there are in the world and what percentage of those actually make it on tv and make a name for themselves. It takes a lot of talent to make it, and if you don't have the boxing talent, you have to possess some other natural ability like crazy stamina, power, speed or something that makes you have an equalizer over an opponent (Wilder, Maidana come to mind).

The only way one can truly understand how hard pro boxing is, is to try it themselves.

Khan is a good fighter with a decent resume. If your losses are only to other good fighters, then that's nothing to laugh at.

Being "great" at boxing is praised for a reason, and great boxers are influential for a reason, that's because what they do is hard.

I don't want to seem argumentative and I do respect a fellow fight fans opinion, but.........

Kotelnyk - #3 at 140 (Ring 2009) = Amounted to nothing. So my Lemeiux comparison stands.
Malignaggi - #5 at 140 (Ring 2010) - Nah, bro. He was only marginally ok in his prime. He took a good beating, though.
Maidana - #4 at 140 (Ring 2010) = Quittor Ortiz and Almost Bumlevel Broner. He did ok vs May considering his lack of subtlety.
Judah - #6 at 140 (Ring 2011) = 40+ fights in and you know Zab was just there for the check. Paulie beat him for god's sake.

Khan vs Alexander (Neither were ranked in the top 10 at WW yet)
Algieri was also not ranked at WW because he had just lost to Pacquiao at 147 while being ranked #3 at JWW.

Again, Devon and Algieri aren't known for much. And I'm not talking about any of these needing to be great. Saying they were decent would be acceptable.

I'm more interested in how Khan spins this loss than the fight itself.

[LacedUp]

trolling or delusional. either or.

[dibzvincent143]

He is a sloppy idiot with a fragile chin and a lox boxing IQ...What more does he have to do to show you he is not and will never be elite?

True. His few fans still regard him as a masterboxer who is only lacking a chin. When in fact he lacks a whole lot of things.

They lived off with the notion that manny and floyd ducked him LOL

[DuckAdonis]

He has a better resume than what most consider 'top fighters' today. He only has 3 real losses, all by KO. One was to Canelo in a huge mismatch. He is a very good offensive boxer. His defense is just trash. He can give Crawford problems atleast.

[Madison Boxing]

judah was shot and paulie was never anything worth mentioning..maidana was a good win and Peterson beat him and had him running for dear life as did maidana ..Khan was never elite and never had any great defining wins

Who have spence and crawford beat?

[IronDanHamza]

I can't think of another fight where points were taken for pushing I seen boxers do way worse than that and not get penalized

I'm not Khan fan but that was very harsh

Me neither but if you are being warned countless times including final warnings then you better stop blatantly pushing.

So you can't say it was "no reason" because he continued to push and wasn't even subtle about it.

[Redd Foxx]

Me neither but if you are being warned countless times including final warnings then you better stop blatantly pushing.

So you can't say it was "no reason" because he continued to push and wasn't even subtle about it.

I agree. It was clearly becoming a problem in thar fight. Khan is one of these guys that will keep pushing the limits unless the ref stops him. Just like when he headlocks. I was elated to see a ref put his foot down regarding shoving and I'm surprised to see people complaining about it.