Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo-Brandon Adams on 6/15 or 6/8, on Showtime

[Oldskoolg]

Same reason the Golden State Warriors play on TNT one week, ESPN another and ABC in the Finals.

Lol, pretty simple isn’t it lol

[DJrabit]

Come on PBC is a joke.

[Scipio2009]

DAZN needs GGG vs Canelo/Jacobs winner at year-end, so of course they want a soft option for GGG's next fight, hence the offer to Adams - basically Adams not seen as having a realistic chance, and a tool to make GGG look like his old self again by blasting him out in a couple of rounds.

So can understand the GGG angle, and if not Adams, then will be someone else of same calibre so the winner Canelo/Jacobs fight doesn't get derailed

But why Charlo fight someone of this calibre ? I don't see a gameplan or reason other than to keep treading water - waiting for what ? (If its a Canelo or GGG mandatory - not going to happen as they got big buck business over on DAZN - belts will be dropped if necessary, Canelo now same position Matweather was - doesn't need belts any more to hype his fights, and GGG's deal with DAZN too sweet for him to turn his back on it).

Then let Canelo drop the belt. Charlo gets elevated to full champion, and he continues on with his run.

Korobov 2, Derevyanchenko-Culcay winner, a WBC mandatory, winner of the 154lb tournament (if it's not his brother), etc. Daniel Jacobs is likely free by this point, and you'd basically have given yourself about 16 months to see if one of the young middleweights coming along can break through.

Disagree if you want, there's a plan

[daggum]

Then let Canelo drop the belt. Charlo gets elevated to full champion, and he continues on with his run.

Korobov 2, Derevyanchenko-Culcay winner, a WBC mandatory, winner of the 154lb tournament (if it's not his brother), etc. Daniel Jacobs is likely free by this point, and you'd basically have given yourself about 16 months to see if one of the young middleweights coming along can break through.

Disagree if you want, there's a plan

yes the plan is to fight bums for perpetuity and maybe pick up a vacant belt. seems strange the people who said ggg fought for vacant titles against nothing but bums although he somehow fought 10 top 10 fighters along the way are now saying "charlo has a plan, ignore that he hasnt fought even 1 top 10 fighter" what credibility you would have a great debate with yourself from your older posts

[Scipio2009]

You actually think the WBC is going to strip Canelo? You are even dumber than I thought.

The WBC already rejected Golovkin's request for a direct third fight, instead offering him a fight against Charlo, their mandatory challenger, with the winner fighting for the WBC belt held by Canelo.

Canelo had Fielding as his final voluntary, this coming Jacobs fight is a title unification (which trumps the mandatory), and the WBC mandatory is currently due.

If Canelo reneges on his mandatory, while pursuing the voluntary fight that the WBC already rejected, and the WBC goes with it, Jermall Charlo has rightful grounds to sue for his shot, and such a suit puts the WBC's non-profit status at risk, opening themselves to get IBF'd.

Left with choosing to strip Canelo or have the feds strip them, I fully expect Canelo to have a rolled ankle that the WBC uses to turn him into "champion in recess" while Charlo gets elevated to the full championship.

[robbyheartbaby]

Jermall has shown his hand and been exposed so I don't mind this fight, he should stay on the fringe of the division and let the big boys fight it out for top honours.

[REYESdelBOXEO]

Reporter-"Tom Loeffler vs. Al Haymon in a high stakes knock out drag out bidding war!"

WBC-"Ok good Golovkin and Charlo are going to fight each other as was mandated, I'll inform Canelo to get ready to face the winner."

Reporter-"No , sorry they had a bidding war over a bum, Charlo won the bid."

WBC-"Well that's pathetic & embarrassing, thank God for Canelo."

[pillowfists98]

The WBC already rejected Golovkin's request for a direct third fight, instead offering him a fight against Charlo, their mandatory challenger, with the winner fighting for the WBC belt held by Canelo.

Canelo had Fielding as his final voluntary, this coming Jacobs fight is a title unification (which trumps the mandatory), and the WBC mandatory is currently due.

If Canelo reneges on his mandatory, while pursuing the voluntary fight that the WBC already rejected, and the WBC goes with it, Jermall Charlo has rightful grounds to sue for his shot, and such a suit puts the WBC's non-profit status at risk, opening themselves to get IBF'd.

Left with choosing to strip Canelo or have the feds strip them, I fully expect Canelo to have a rolled ankle that the WBC uses to turn him into "champion in recess" while Charlo gets elevated to the full championship.

The WBC has always been in the business of facilitating big fights for their champions not preventing them, and Canelo vs GGG is still one of the biggest fights in boxing. That's why the WBC was prepared to give Wilder an exception to fight Fury again even though he had a long standing mandatory (Breazeale). They will do the same for Canelo. In Mauricio Suaiman's words he is their "franchise champion". The WBC does not want to be left out of such a monumental event like Canelo-GGG 3.

[Boxing_1013]

It was funny when it was 97G, this is just sad. Charlo, you're better than this man.

Sadly I don't know if Charlo is. His only opponent so far who we know is fairly high level - Trout - he went 12 close rounds at 154.

His only potentially decent other fight was at 160 against Korobov - a guy with good skills but a suspect chin, who was 35 and had only fought once since 2016, a guy most people thought was effectively retired before that fight was made - and it was an even closer fight than Trout (I thought a draw was probably the right call with Korobov but could have been 7-5 either way).

The Charlos look the part physically, but boxing skills wise they are far behind the top guys in their respective weight classes. They have basically shown that multiple times.

Btw it's funny how people talk about GGG's resume, but Charlo's 2nd best win is over Korobov, a very close fight against a formerly good boxer who is past his prime and was very inactive, especially against good competition.

GGG stopped Vanes in 2 rounds, and Vanes is younger than Korobov, was probably better at his peak, and Vanes was coming off a similar period of inactivity as Korobov. And that is GGG's like 14th best win lol.

[Boxing_1013]

Let's not overrate GGG's resume.

Some of it is the fact that GGG's good stretch started in 2011 so it directly coincides with this decade.

But he actually has by far the highest number of good wins on his resume in this decade (even excluding the 2 Canelo fights which I felt were pretty straightforward wins for GGG) compared to any other fighter.

15 excluding those 2 fights, including 14 by KO. Dominant wins, no controversy about who won the fights. No other top guy was as active or dominant as GGG was in this decade...you could argue he lacks some high caliber KO of another great fighter in his stretch but that highlight reel moment rarely comes for any fighter.

Overall a really solid run for any fighter, regardless of if one is a fan of his or not.