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  • Bronx2245
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    #21
    Originally posted by AdonisCreed
    "There was talk of having a fight with Oleksandr Usyk, and then they said that he had other plans. I was not against the fight with him in principle... he is a good, strong boxer. For me, the fight with him is, of course, interesting.

    I can see how you could draw that conclusion. But me personally i wouldn't blame him too much for going in a different direction. Povetkin is a tough fight for your introduction into the HW division.
    This is true! However, if according to Hearn, you're 2nd fight is going to be Anthony Joshua, shouldn't you have a better test than Carlos Takam?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      To some fighters don't regress, or improve for that matter, depending on the narrative they seek to push. There are some that want to ignore the impact of meldonium as well.
      Meldonium, and then some:

      Alexander Povetkin fails test; bout against Bermane Stiverne canceled

      December 21, 2016:

      Povetkin and Stiverne were due to meet on Saturday at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia, Povetkin's home country.

      However, the fight was canceled when the WBC withdrew its sanction of the bout because Povetkin tested positive for the banned substance ostarine in a random Voluntary Anti-Doping Association drug test conducted under the WBC's Clean Boxing Program, which allows for random testing at any time...

      Ostarine, which is supposed to increase stamina and recovery ability, has been on the World Anti-Doping Agency banned list since 2008.

      http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...stiverne-fight

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      • P4Pdunny
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        #23
        wonder who he fights next, Whyte maybe?

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          #24
          Originally posted by JWHardin;19631305[B
          ]So, who is lying? My guess is the proven liar, Eddie Hearn.[/B]

          Hearn says "we couldn't reach an agreement", and Povetkin says "they said they had other plans".
          Says the proven Hearn hating troll, JWHardin.

          Neither needs to be lying, you idiot. If either Povetkin or Usyk "had other plans" then that means they couldn't reach an agreement to fight each other. Get it?
          Last edited by kafkod; 04-02-2019, 09:09 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Meldonium, and then some:

            Alexander Povetkin fails test; bout against Bermane Stiverne canceled

            December 21, 2016:

            Povetkin and Stiverne were due to meet on Saturday at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia, Povetkin's home country.

            However, the fight was canceled when the WBC withdrew its sanction of the bout because Povetkin tested positive for the banned substance ostarine in a random Voluntary Anti-Doping Association drug test conducted under the WBC's Clean Boxing Program, which allows for random testing at any time...

            Ostarine, which is supposed to increase stamina and recovery ability, has been on the World Anti-Doping Agency banned list since 2008.

            http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...stiverne-fight
            I viewed the ostarine use as a substitute for meldonium so didn't even mention it. Although, it is possible that he was taking both.

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              #26
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Says the proven Hearn hating troll, JWHardin.

              Neither needs to be lying, you idiot. If either Povetkin or Usyk "had other plans" then that means they couldn't reach an agreement to fight each other. Get it?
              The two statements imply two totally different end results. Had other plans implies that Hearn/Usyk decided to go in a different direction for reasons other than financial reasons. Couldn't reach an agreement implies that due to business reasons, the fight couldn't be made. Seems to me that Povetkin was saying politely, they didn't really want to fight me. Oh, for the record, I think highly of Usyk and believe he beats Povetkin.
              Last edited by Ake-Dawg; 04-02-2019, 10:44 AM.

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              • Ray*
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                #27
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                This is clearly more lies by you wilder fan girls. Povetkin was much more prepared for AJ then his Klitschko fight. He was also visibly more leaner and more compact punching with a more prepared training camp knowing what Aj brought. and had guys to somewhat bring that pressure style with DDD and Sirenko and still couldn't dominate Aj who decided to stop him when it was getting to late rounds.

                Povetkin would still be Wilders best win,but we'll still ignore that and put detractions on who AJ is defeating...Ha

                I hope you are another one that sticks around after Breazeale knocks out wilder as well,im taking count now,.
                How did you know this? Povetkin was on his heart pills when he fought Wladimir in russia. There was NO doubt that on paper Wlad fought the better fighter in Povetkin's own country.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  The two statements imply two totally different end results. Had other plans implies that Hearn/Usyk decided to go in a different direction for other financial reasons. Couldn't reach an agreement implies that due to business reasons, the fight couldn't be made. Seems to me that Povetkin was saying politely, they didn't really want to fight me. Oh, for the record, I think highly of Usyk and believe he beats Povetkin.
                  I don't think Team Usyk wanted the povetkin fight as his first at HW. His manager came out with a list and to be honest, i knew Takam would be the end choice.

                  Similar to everyone putting Ortiz on their list, just for the sake of it, they never get to offer him the fight at the end of the day.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Slowhand
                    Maybe thatīs because meldonium a very weak PED for a healthy athlete, even a WADA official stated they banned it mainly for ethical reasons? Sure, it was unethical and morally wrong, but at the time Pov used it it wasnīt banned. Wilder dodged a bullet and heīs never been more relieved. The Ostarine case on the other hand seemed legit so the punishment was well deserved. Povetkin is getting old and heīs having stamina issues but heīs still a top five HW. Too bad heīs running out of time.
                    So do you think the ostarine use was just "out of the blue" or was it a substitute for meldonium.

                    A study published in Drug Testing and Analysis in December 2015 summarized the following about meldonium:

                    "[It] demonstrates an increase in endurance performance of athletes, improved rehabilitation after exercise, protection against stress, and enhanced activations of central nervous system (CNS) functions."

                    According to this, meldonium and ostarine have similar benefits.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ray*
                      I don't think Team Usyk wanted the povetkin fight as his first at HW. His manager came out with a list and to be honest, i knew Takam would be the end choice.

                      Similar to everyone putting Ortiz on their list, just for the sake of it, they never get to offer him the fight at the end of the day.
                      I agree. To me, Takam is a better opponent to adjust to a weight jump against, particularly if they plan on putting on about 10 pounds of muscle.

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