Comments Thread For: Wilder, Fury, Joshua: Big Three Playing Heavyweight Roulette

[Noelanthony]

Wider fighting hits mandatory, because fury ran off at the last minute.

Fury/ AJ have no excuse for the bums they chose to fight.

The hate is real but I actually like you because you don’t sugarcoat your bias. Your disdain for British is as light as day and you are consistent with your nonsense. You have Wilder fans, sorry he claims he isn’t a Wilder fan he is a fan that is just keeping it real and if he dies he will like to be remembered for his integrity. You can’t make this s#hit up. He went on to say Wilder deserves 35% but he can’t tell a grown man what to take. He says Wilder doesn’t want the fight because he is asking for 50/50 but he doesn’t blame Wilder because Joshua ducked him twice.He concludes he doesn’t want wilder doing business with Team AJ as they are liars

I recall Wilder saying he didn’t say anything about catching a body as it was infact the Bronze bomber that said it. Do you think he was lying?

[Bronx2245]

I'm tired of playing these games! Can't wait for the new blood: Efe Ajagba, Joe Joyce, Tony Yoka, Oscar Rivas, and Oleksandr Usyk! Salute to Adam Kownacki! Kownacki vs. Ortiz, make it happen!

[P4Pdunny]

One of them will lose, and I'll be glad. What's wrong with them fighting each other a few times rather than trying to build up to one fight. There's also more money in rematches and trilogies if the interest is there and it likely would be there.

[Zaxspeed]

One of them will lose, and I'll be glad. What's wrong with them fighting each other a few times rather than trying to build up to one fight. There's also more money in rematches and trilogies if the interest is there and it likely would be there.

Likely all three win has they have picked fighters that suit them.

Yes even Deontay (via Al Haymon) picked his opponent despite the "Mandatory" title - the WBC have shown lots of flexibility with Wilder over the last few years, Breazeale did nothing to earn it except get hit regularly with straight rights in all his fights.

Would love to see Fury vs Big Baby, I don't think Fury has the power to keep BB away, and BB cuts the ring down well. Match probably never happens - they would never agree on the ring dimensions.

[Scopedog]

I actually think Joshua - Miller is okay, it was probably the best fight that he could have realistically made at the time, although there's some room for debate that Whyte would have been a little better. Miller has at least established himself as a legitimate contender and despite being a big underdog there's at least some reason to believe that he'll have a chance. I think out of the three on the table this is probably the best matchup and probably the one most worthy of being PPV.

Wilder - Breazeale is also acceptable for me, Breazeale is coming off some fan-friendly wins, he's shown that he's strong and durable and also has big power. That could be a recipe that at least poses danger to Wilder. Again, Wilder didn't really have any better options after Fury pulled the rug out from under him, and Breazeale has been mandatory for Wilder's belt for ages so it's a fight ordained as worthy by the WBC, whatever that might be worth. Not the kind of fight I'd stay up late for or pay to watch, but it's acceptable in the circumstances, especially if it has a good undercard.

On the other hand I don't think I can make any excuses for the Schwarz fight that Fury's just taken. Fury had built up a lot of goodwill in 2018 with his unlikely comeback and the skilled and brave performance he put up against Wilder. It seems like consensus leans toward him deserving to have been the winner in that fight, which personally I agree with, but I'm honestly less inclined to stick my neck out for him in regards to that after he pulled this garbage. The way he took up Bob Arum on his offer making the fight with Wilder a near-impossibility just as it looked like it was on the verge of being finalised is unforgivable, and has shades of the way Adonis Stevenson defected from HBO to Showtime in order to sidestep Sergey Kovalev. Just that by itself was already a pretty stark betrayal of the fans who'd cheered and supported him as he made his comeback, but to next announce Schwarz as his opponent is honestly laughable. Nothing about this guy labels him as worthy - he has no name recognition, and his 24-0 record is furnished with other mediocre no-name domestic-euro competition. The one name on there I even recognised is Konstantin Airich, who I only remember because he was early KO fodder for Joshua shortly after he turned pro, and also was fed to a few other mediocre European heavyweights like Helenius, Wach and Ustinov for a quick and cheap KO (Schwarz on the other hand failed to stop him.) He doesn't even really pass the eyetest if you watch his highlight reel on youtube. He's big and he clearly hits pretty hard but he looks sluggish, his technique is raw at best and he's always fighting smaller guys - Fury is going to have height and reach on him so he's going to badly outclassed in every department. Honestly the deal that Fury took is worth so much money that I can only blame him so much for taking it, but I really can't comprehend what Arum was thinking. He's promised Fury 80 million dollars, and if he want to recoup that money this definitely isn't the place to start. This is the kind of fight you give to a prospect to prove that they're the real deal, not a fighter who already has elite credentials.

[Boksfan]

Out of the 3 fat Fury turned out to be the biggest cherry picker, disgraceful. Watch his batty boy Davison making excuses for fat Fury.

[Boksfan]

I actually think Joshua - Miller is okay, it was probably the best fight that he could have realistically made at the time, although there's some room for debate that Whyte would have been a little better. Miller has at least established himself as a legitimate contender and despite being a big underdog there's at least some reason to believe that he'll have a chance. I think out of the three on the table this is probably the best matchup and probably the one most worthy of being PPV.

Wilder - Breazeale is also acceptable for me, Breazeale is coming off some fan-friendly wins, he's shown that he's strong and durable and also has big power. That could be a recipe that at least poses danger to Wilder. Again, Wilder didn't really have any better options after Fury pulled the rug out from under him, and Breazeale has been mandatory for Wilder's belt for ages so it's a fight ordained as worthy by the WBC, whatever that might be worth. Not the kind of fight I'd stay up late for or pay to watch, but it's acceptable in the circumstances, especially if it has a good undercard.

On the other hand I don't think I can make any excuses for the Schwarz fight that Fury's just taken. Fury had built up a lot of goodwill in 2018 with his unlikely comeback and the skilled and brave performance he put up against Wilder. It seems like consensus leans toward him deserving to have been the winner in that fight, which personally I agree with, but I'm honestly less inclined to stick my neck out for him in regards to that after he pulled this garbage. The way he took up Bob Arum on his offer making the fight with Wilder a near-impossibility just as it looked like it was on the verge of being finalised is unforgivable, and has shades of the way Adonis Stevenson defected from HBO to Showtime in order to sidestep Sergey Kovalev. Just that by itself was already a pretty stark betrayal of the fans who'd cheered and supported him as he made his comeback, but to next announce Schwarz as his opponent is honestly laughable. Nothing about this guy labels him as worthy - he has no name recognition, and his 24-0 record is furnished with other mediocre no-name domestic-euro competition. The one name on there I even recognised is Konstantin Airich, who I only remember because he was early KO fodder for Joshua shortly after he turned pro, and also was fed to a few other mediocre European heavyweights like Helenius, Wach and Ustinov for a quick and cheap KO (Schwarz on the other hand failed to stop him.) He doesn't even really pass the eyetest if you watch his highlight reel on youtube. He's big and he clearly hits pretty hard but he looks sluggish, his technique is raw at best and he's always fighting smaller guys - Fury is going to have height and reach on him so he's going to badly outclassed in every department. Honestly the deal that Fury took is worth so much money that I can only blame him so much for taking it, but I really can't comprehend what Arum was thinking. He's promised Fury 80 million dollars, and if he want to recoup that money this definitely isn't the place to start. This is the kind of fight you give to a prospect to prove that they're the real deal, not a fighter who already has elite credentials.

My thoughts exactly. Also I think Wilder should have choose Whyte instead of Breazeale but it is what it is.

[BillyBoxing]

I actually think Joshua - Miller is okay, it was probably the best fight that he could have realistically made at the time, although there's some room for debate that Whyte would have been a little better. Miller has at least established himself as a legitimate contender and despite being a big underdog there's at least some reason to believe that he'll have a chance. I think out of the three on the table this is probably the best matchup and probably the one most worthy of being PPV.

Wilder - Breazeale is also acceptable for me, Breazeale is coming off some fan-friendly wins, he's shown that he's strong and durable and also has big power. That could be a recipe that at least poses danger to Wilder. Again, Wilder didn't really have any better options after Fury pulled the rug out from under him, and Breazeale has been mandatory for Wilder's belt for ages so it's a fight ordained as worthy by the WBC, whatever that might be worth. Not the kind of fight I'd stay up late for or pay to watch, but it's acceptable in the circumstances, especially if it has a good undercard.

On the other hand I don't think I can make any excuses for the Schwarz fight that Fury's just taken. Fury had built up a lot of goodwill in 2018 with his unlikely comeback and the skilled and brave performance he put up against Wilder. It seems like consensus leans toward him deserving to have been the winner in that fight, which personally I agree with, but I'm honestly less inclined to stick my neck out for him in regards to that after he pulled this garbage. The way he took up Bob Arum on his offer making the fight with Wilder a near-impossibility just as it looked like it was on the verge of being finalised is unforgivable, and has shades of the way Adonis Stevenson defected from HBO to Showtime in order to sidestep Sergey Kovalev. Just that by itself was already a pretty stark betrayal of the fans who'd cheered and supported him as he made his comeback, but to next announce Schwarz as his opponent is honestly laughable. Nothing about this guy labels him as worthy - he has no name recognition, and his 24-0 record is furnished with other mediocre no-name domestic-euro competition. The one name on there I even recognised is Konstantin Airich, who I only remember because he was early KO fodder for Joshua shortly after he turned pro, and also was fed to a few other mediocre European heavyweights like Helenius, Wach and Ustinov for a quick and cheap KO (Schwarz on the other hand failed to stop him.) He doesn't even really pass the eyetest if you watch his highlight reel on youtube. He's big and he clearly hits pretty hard but he looks sluggish, his technique is raw at best and he's always fighting smaller guys - Fury is going to have height and reach on him so he's going to badly outclassed in every department. Honestly the deal that Fury took is worth so much money that I can only blame him so much for taking it, but I really can't comprehend what Arum was thinking. He's promised Fury 80 million dollars, and if he want to recoup that money this definitely isn't the place to start. This is the kind of fight you give to a prospect to prove that they're the real deal, not a fighter who already has elite credentials.

I agree with anything you said except that IMO Fury got a pass for that sht fight/ tune up after taking on Wilder being half in shape/half active then getting dropped twice in a tough fight.

Fury deserves a pass, unlike Joshua...

[BillyBoxing]

Out of the 3 fat Fury turned out to be the biggest cherry picker, disgraceful. Watch his batty boy Davison making excuses for fat Fury.

Yet he's the one fighting the bests in their backyard, unlike Deontay who never dared to face Klitschko or come to the UK and Joshua who still has to find his pen to fight one of the big three.

[Noelanthony]

I actually think Joshua - Miller is okay, it was probably the best fight that he could have realistically made at the time, although there's some room for debate that Whyte would have been a little better. Miller has at least established himself as a legitimate contender and despite being a big underdog there's at least some reason to believe that he'll have a chance. I think out of the three on the table this is probably the best matchup and probably the one most worthy of being PPV.

Wilder - Breazeale is also acceptable for me, Breazeale is coming off some fan-friendly wins, he's shown that he's strong and durable and also has big power. That could be a recipe that at least poses danger to Wilder. Again, Wilder didn't really have any better options after Fury pulled the rug out from under him, and Breazeale has been mandatory for Wilder's belt for ages so it's a fight ordained as worthy by the WBC, whatever that might be worth. Not the kind of fight I'd stay up late for or pay to watch, but it's acceptable in the circumstances, especially if it has a good undercard.

On the other hand I don't think I can make any excuses for the Schwarz fight that Fury's just taken. Fury had built up a lot of goodwill in 2018 with his unlikely comeback and the skilled and brave performance he put up against Wilder. It seems like consensus leans toward him deserving to have been the winner in that fight, which personally I agree with, but I'm honestly less inclined to stick my neck out for him in regards to that after he pulled this garbage. The way he took up Bob Arum on his offer making the fight with Wilder a near-impossibility just as it looked like it was on the verge of being finalised is unforgivable, and has shades of the way Adonis Stevenson defected from HBO to Showtime in order to sidestep Sergey Kovalev. Just that by itself was already a pretty stark betrayal of the fans who'd cheered and supported him as he made his comeback, but to next announce Schwarz as his opponent is honestly laughable. Nothing about this guy labels him as worthy - he has no name recognition, and his 24-0 record is furnished with other mediocre no-name domestic-euro competition. The one name on there I even recognised is Konstantin Airich, who I only remember because he was early KO fodder for Joshua shortly after he turned pro, and also was fed to a few other mediocre European heavyweights like Helenius, Wach and Ustinov for a quick and cheap KO (Schwarz on the other hand failed to stop him.) He doesn't even really pass the eyetest if you watch his highlight reel on youtube. He's big and he clearly hits pretty hard but he looks sluggish, his technique is raw at best and he's always fighting smaller guys - Fury is going to have height and reach on him so he's going to badly outclassed in every department. Honestly the deal that Fury took is worth so much money that I can only blame him so much for taking it, but I really can't comprehend what Arum was thinking. He's promised Fury 80 million dollars, and if he want to recoup that money this definitely isn't the place to start. This is the kind of fight you give to a prospect to prove that they're the real deal, not a fighter who already has elite credentials.

That was a refreshing unbiased piece. Well written