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  • Scipio2009
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxing Logic
    Sounds like just another case of a foreign boxer trying to fight the best American boxer in his division, but that boxer being with Al Haymon, and Haymon going 'Hell nah I'm not risking my boxer losing to anyone outside of PBC. It might be best for my boxer to take their shot, but it ain't best for me.'

    Bivol was mando to Badou Jack, a Haymon guy. Jack went the Stevenson route instead, refused to defend his belt. Then Jack got a draw, Gvozdyk got the next Stevenson shot, so Jack should have fought Bivol then. Bivol offered him the fight. But Jack wouldn't fight him then either. Went to fight a non-titlist, Browne, instead of the titlist, Bivol. A joke.

    Then Browne dominated Jack like Im sure Haymon planned, so basically Jack was talked into throwing his career into the trash can just to help Al and Browne at the expense of his own career (Bivol would have been a better fight for him stylistically, and losing to a champ is not as bad as losing to someone that Hot Rod beat clearly), and now it sounds like Al won't let Browne fight Bivol either. This after Al did the same **** with Stevenson relative to Kovalev as well.

    What is it with Al and the 175 division? It's not even the biggest money division (although it would be right now with the proper promotion).

    Oh that's right, I forgot, Al does this **** in every single division he has a top 5 guy in. PBC stay ruining boxing as usual. PBC boxers are a joke. "I'm a free agent but I can only fight on certain networks. I'm my own boss but I can't make any decisions or even discuss boxing freely to the media without Al's permission. "I never ducked or dodged nobody" but I duck and dodge everybody outside of PBC who is better than me.

    PBC is a joke. This would be the second Al Haymon WBA mandatory to Dmitry Bivol to duck the fight. The WBA and all sanctioning bodies need to simply stop putting Haymon fighters, or any non-serious fighters from any promotion like Anthony Yarde, as mandatories to A-level non-PBC champions because it's just a waste of time, Al never puts his guys in non-inhouse fights they'd be underdogs unless he has no choice.
    Gvozdyk vs Browne for the WBC 175lb title is the next big fight for Marcus Browne, and that's been obvious since after the Badou Jack fight. Hate if you want.

    Browne will have his spring fight (rumors are that he's fighting Jean Pascal), both guys will likely fight in the summer, and then the WBC mandatory will be due and a conversation will be had.

    With the spectre of a really viable fight for Barclays or Nassau (the best American light heavyweight, known fighter in New York, strong ethnic support in the region, etc), a deal should end up being made.

    Bivol can do whatever he's been doing

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    • KTFOKING
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      #22
      Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
      I give him props for beating Jack bit I can't shake watching Browne in some pretty flat and uninspiring fights, some against very average talent. I wonder how much of Jack showed up in the Browne fight and how much was taken out of him in his fight against Stevenson (and the previous wars before that). Jack kind of looked a little shot; he wasn't pulling the trigger on punches.

      Anyway, the Bivol matchup would be interesting because Bivol's performances have been far less explosive as recent; decision wins against Chilemba, Pascal and Smith rate high but his offense doesn't seem quite as dangerous as it once did.

      The LHW division is pretty exciting because I think all the top fighters could potentially beat or lose to any of the others.
      The fight before Jack, Browne looked like crap. Everyone remembers the Hot Rod performance. But then other times like against Jack/Williams/Seanie, dude looks like a straight beast. He's just one of those types of fighters that may perform his best against the better competition and perform inconsistent against lower level competition. But he has ZERO chance against the other top LHWs if he isn't at his best.

      As for Jack, could be he was starting to become a bit shot, but I don't think he took all that much punishment against Stevenson. The early rounds he lost it was mainly due to not throwing enough and then he proceeded to beat the crap out of Stevenson the rest of the fight until the 10th round where he got caught with the body shot that hurt him. But hey, look at his resume since 2014, he's fought some top guys so it very well could have been a combination of multiple things. Maybe age and punishment has caught up to him and maybe Browne was just too strong for him and a tough styles match up for him. We will get all the answers we are looking for about just how good Browne is depending on how he performs against either Bivol or Gvozdyk next.

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      • Mammoth
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        #23
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Gvozdyk vs Browne for the WBC 175lb title is the next big fight for Marcus Browne, and that's been obvious since after the Badou Jack fight. Hate if you want.

        Browne will have his spring fight (rumors are that he's fighting Jean Pascal), both guys will likely fight in the summer, and then the WBC mandatory will be due and a conversation will be had.

        With the spectre of a really viable fight for Barclays or Nassau (the best American light heavyweight, known fighter in New York, strong ethnic support in the region, etc), a deal should end up being made.

        Bivol can do whatever he's been doing
        I think Gvozdyk vs Browne is next, too. Bivol's team would be wise to start talking to Fornling as a back up.

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        • SteveAnitaSmith
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          #24
          I got Browne over Bivol- too much size, reach, speed, and reflexes.
          Bivol doesn't have the pop to deter Browne

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          • slimPickings
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            #25
            After that Radivoje Kalajdzic debacle in which Browne was lucky to walk away with a win, i think he has finally put it together. He is a very well rounded quality fighter.

            Bivol is just a better version of Browne.

            Browne is very very good. Bivol is special.
            Browne has what it takes to win a belt...its just not going to be against Bivol!

            I'll put my money on Bivol everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.
            Last edited by slimPickings; 04-01-2019, 12:16 AM.

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            • Alan Smithee
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              #26
              Browne will get a title shot soon. The comments about Al Haymon not letting his guys fight the big names should be reserved for his "champs". Why wouldn't he want Browne to fight for a title? It's one thing to risk a title and another to fight for one. Even if Browne were to lose to Bivol in a competitive fight his stock would still be high.

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              • Boxing Logic
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                #27
                Originally posted by Scipio2009
                Gvozdyk vs Browne for the WBC 175lb title is the next big fight for Marcus Browne, and that's been obvious since after the Badou Jack fight. Hate if you want.

                Browne will have his spring fight (rumors are that he's fighting Jean Pascal), both guys will likely fight in the summer, and then the WBC mandatory will be due and a conversation will be had.

                With the spectre of a really viable fight for Barclays or Nassau (the best American light heavyweight, known fighter in New York, strong ethnic support in the region, etc), a deal should end up being made.

                Bivol can do whatever he's been doing
                Why is a contender trying to cherry pick titlists? Gvozdyk isn't any more popular in the US than Bivol is. Nothing has been "obvious" except that Browne seems to think he has a better chance of beating Gvozdyk than Bivol so he pulled some dumb excuse out of nowhere after beating Jack about why "Gvozdyk has to be first, then Bivol after" because "me and Teddy Atlas are both from New York." What a crock of bull****. And then if he fights Gvozdyk and wins, he will renege on what he said about Bivol and go and hold that belt hostage for 5-10 years vs B and C-level PBC light heavyweights (they don't have any A-level light heavyweights besides maybe Browne), and stay ducking Bivol.

                The WBA champ is ready to fight Browne this summer. Browne is the WBA mandatory. If the WBC orders it first, then by all means, but Browne shouldn't be cherry picking champs. Whichever title shot is available first, go and seize the moment. You're talking about Barclays or Nassau, you left out MSG which is where Hearn wants to put a huge Bivol-Browne main / Joe Smith Jr-Callum Johnson co-main, with Russian, white American, black American, white New York fighter, black New York fighter, and British fanbases all represented in 50-50 fights. You don't think that would sell? You don't think Browne makes just as much or more money on a card like that, with DAZN footing the bill (DAZN have the deepest pockets), as he would against Gvozdyk?

                As for Browne's interim fight, what the ***** is he doing? That should have happened already. Now it's too late. Just go straight to Bivol. Stop wasting everyone's time. This the dude that turned down the Kovalev fight many times before finally accepting once Kovalev looked shot, ducked the Gvozdyk title eliminator, I think ducked the Beterbiev or Bivol title eliminator too one of those two, but now you're making excuses for him to duck them even longer even now that they're champions. No one wants to wait until end of 2019 to see Browne. End of 2019 is when unifications are supposed to take place. If Browne was the real deal he would be fighting a titlist in summer so he could be part of one of those unifications in the fall if he wins the title in the summer, but it sounds like he just wants to cherry pick who he thinks is the weakest titlist with the easiest style for him to beat, then go back to PBC and hold the title hostage for years. If that's the case, you better be hoping he loses that title shot when he finally takes it, otherwise all the buzz around the 175 division right now is going to disappear and we're going to find ourselves back in the wilderness for five years like when Stevenson had the belt the whole time. Be careful what you wish for.
                Last edited by Boxing Logic; 04-01-2019, 12:43 AM.

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                • Boxing Logic
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Gvozdyk vs Browne for the WBC 175lb title is the next big fight for Marcus Browne, and that's been obvious since after the Badou Jack fight. Hate if you want.

                  Browne will have his spring fight (rumors are that he's fighting Jean Pascal), both guys will likely fight in the summer, and then the WBC mandatory will be due and a conversation will be had.

                  With the spectre of a really viable fight for Barclays or Nassau (the best American light heavyweight, known fighter in New York, strong ethnic support in the region, etc), a deal should end up being made.

                  Bivol can do whatever he's been doing
                  By the way, are you speaking on inside information of what you've heard the internal plans are on either Browne or Gvozdyk's side of things, or are you just saying what your best guess is?

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mammoth
                    I think Gvozdyk vs Browne is next, too. Bivol's team would be wise to start talking to Fornling as a back up.
                    Bivol vs Fornling; that'll put butts in the seats, lol.

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                    • Boxing Logic
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Bivol vs Fornling; that'll put butts in the seats, lol.
                      You're really laughing at their inability to make big fights when they're trying to make a really good fight but you're making excuses why it shouldn't happen? Tf is wrong with you? They're trying to make a really good fight for summer 2019, you're making excuses why fans should have to wait even longer until probably December 2019 to see another fight that isn't even any better than this one we could get in summer, and then you're laughing about how their other options aren't any good. That's messed up lol.

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