The Heavyweight Solution Problem...

[Robbie Barrett]

It's insane how deluded these guys are...also borderline scarily ******, . Honestly if my prediction comes true and Breazeales hand is raised this forum is going to get real, real quick and I bet anything Wilder will be the fastest dumped HW champion no one ever rooted for as fast as his actual fan base appeared out of no where . Ha

Yep. Most Wilder fans are ******ed, dishonest liars. Must be how they've been raised.

[Madison Boxing]

It's insane how deluded these guys are...also borderline scarily ******, . Honestly if my prediction comes true and Breazeales hand is raised this forum is going to get real, real quick and I bet anything Wilder will be the fastest dumped HW champion no one ever rooted for as fast as his actual fan base appeared out of no where . Ha

A lot of them dumped him after the fury fight and suddenly everyone who said he would knock joshua and fury out said they never rated him. But since the rematch fell through a few of them are hyping him again but not as many.

[SinderellaMan]

It's insane how deluded these guys are...also borderline scarily ******, . Honestly if my prediction comes true and Breazeales hand is raised this forum is going to get real, real quick and I bet anything Wilder will be the fastest dumped HW champion no one ever rooted for as fast as his actual fan base appeared out of no where . Ha

Deluded?
Says the guy who is picking Brazeale....
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[SinderellaMan]

So hang on, you're proposing that if Wilder was mandatory for the WBO then purse bids would be called and he would get 30%?

He hasn't looked remotely interested in 30% so what then? He turns it down. And what do the WBO do? Nothing because he's not their champion!

What you've proposed would actually prevent unifications.

And that is another part of the problem

[SinderellaMan]

Your point is only partially right,

While it is factually correct -the WBC have absolutely aided and abetted Wilder in his chronic ducking (not just Joshua but now they have no appetite for a fight with Whyte) - but still, this fight could have been made if Wilder wanted it on fair terms.
People saying that if AJ wanted the fight all he has to do is overpay Wilder to get it, which is essentially what Wilder is banking on, that AJ won't want to be overcharged and Deontay can price himself out. People suggesting that it's AJ's fault because he won't massively overpay (he's already overpaying at 60/40) and go to 50/50, people saying this are ignoring historical precedent. The A side never needs to give 50/50 to a much smaller draw, much smaller name, that's why the terms A side and B side were coined.
The real reason why this has not happened is what Barry Hearn nailed months ago. Simply put, staying unbeaten (notwithstanding his Fury loss) and holding the WBC belt hostage means more to Wilder than money. It's that simple.
If you asked Wilder: "Would you get smashed in front of the whole world watching, for say $120,000,000.00?"
His answer is, "no thanks, I got lots of money, and some people think I'm great."
THAT, and that alone, is what we have boiled it down to. He is fortunate to be able to take this stance because he has help from a WBC willing to collude with him and assist his ducking.
He's a phony, if ever boxing had one.
All boxing fans should object to this, and not defend this guy and his handlers. It is pure irony when Wilder fans rejoice in his ducking. They celebrate when Wilder or Finkel turn Hearn away. They are happy when Wilder stubbornly refuses to answer the phone, or make a deal, or even meet. They are happiest when the fight isn't made.
As an appreciator of AJ's work, his willingness to seek out the best WILLING opponents, I want to see him fight Wilder and I don't want him to overpay that coward. However, if you gave me a choice between not seeing the fight at all, and seeing Joshua pay ******ly over the value to make it happen, then I choose the latter, as I am a boxing fan. And Wilder fans are the opposite. They are happy that Wilder won't talk, meet, or make the fight. They are happy to see these guys not fight.
They've lost the plot, if they actually like boxing.

You know I'm a big Wilder fan BUT turning down $120 million is not a good luck. I hope whatever the plan is works out but I'm curious as to how much money Haymon actually wants.
The 2 fight deal was there with the potential for a 3rd.
Loyalty to Shrinkel goes out the window when it comes to numbers like that.
And the sanctioning bodies, which shouldn't exist, are just as much to blame.
Why would they rank a different champion and force a purse bid that ultimately loses them money?
**** like this debacle is what hurts the sport of boxing

[Boksfan]

So hang on, you're proposing that if Wilder was mandatory for the WBO then purse bids would be called and he would get 30%?

He hasn't looked remotely interested in 30% so what then? He turns it down. And what do the WBO do? Nothing because he's not their champion!

What you've proposed would actually prevent unifications.

Yeah this guy is essentially saying Wildher should get 30% against Joshua. I mean he should but 25% is more fair because he's got only 1 belt. Unfortunately this won't happen because like he said sanctioning bodies don't rate other champions.

[Leben]

They can't force other sanctioning bodies to act and they have no real power over each other. It would ruin fights rather than make fights.

[REDEEMER]

Deluded?
Says the guy who is picking Brazeale....
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Your fan base is beyond dumb, this thread contributes to that , it knows no bounds to how clueless Wilder fans can be it's comical. You guys act like Wilder is unbeatable when he's a accident waiting to happen since he's stepped up. Not only will Breazeale out box him but when he lands solid , I know Wilder glass will shatter. Then we'll see who knows what ?

[Froch_uppercut]

You know I'm a big Wilder fan BUT turning down $120 million is not a good luck. I hope whatever the plan is works out but I'm curious as to how much money Haymon actually wants.
The 2 fight deal was there with the potential for a 3rd.
Loyalty to Shrinkel goes out the window when it comes to numbers like that.
And the sanctioning bodies, which shouldn't exist, are just as much to blame.
Why would they rank a different champion and force a purse bid that ultimately loses them money?
**** like this debacle is what hurts the sport of boxing

Props for telling it like it is. Let's support boxing. Not nationality or race. Let's object to boxing politics, and encourage fights to happen for the right reasons.

[Deus]

Or we could just kill 3 of the other belts (or 4 if your UKish cuz they seem to have started counting the IBO for some f#cking reason).

Doesn't this very site (a US site I might add) count the IBO these days? Clearly getting paid a pretty penny to do so.