Comments Thread For: Hearn is Firm: Wilder Doesn't Deserve 50-50 For Joshua Fight!

[Scipio2009]

wilders biggest payday is 10 million, joshuas is 35 million

wilders biggest live gate is 3.5 million, joshuas done over 10 million many times

why is this 50/50?

The biggest a fight could ever be in Joshua's home market is $50m; the biggest a fight could currently possibly be in Wilder's home market is $500m.

Not sure where you're guessing the $35m for Joshua from (Joshua and Klitschko allegedly split $42m on their fight), but whatever.

Beyond that, Hearn turned punk when the fight should've been 60/40 Joshua in the UK last year and Wilder is being petty.

[Boxingraya]

Who has more to gain? Wilder does, so why is it Joshua that has to bend over backwards. If Wilder actually believed he could win he'd be all over it to make himself a star. The fact he isn't proves he doesn't believe he can win.

Pure speculation as to who benefits more. AJ isn't a PPV star here in the states. In case you have not noticed, the US is the place where a fighter wants to be a PPV star. At 50-50 both guys get filthy rich and the winner writes his own check for his next fights

[15 Rounds again]

Pure speculation as to who benefits more. AJ isn't a PPV star here in the states. In case you have not noticed, the US is the place where a fighter wants to be a PPV star. At 50-50 both guys get filthy rich and the winner writes his own check for his next fights

Thing is - Wilder needs a supporting cast even in his own country.
The logical way to view it is that they both PROPORTIONATELY increase their money making opportunity if they fight each other, but that increase is disproportionately slanted toward Wilder in a 50/50 arrangement. Heck, even 40% for Wilder is a disproportionate increase and generous to his side.
He simply doesnt want it. His story / excuses change every day. If you cant acknowledge this I think you're either trolling or are lacking in discernment skills - its very easy to see what's happening for those who just tell it like it is, just as so many former Wilder defenders are now Wilder detractors. He's hurting boxing and gmfans who back him are allowing that to happen- to.us all.
Instead of defending him why don't you join the many others who now call him out for his blatant cowardice? That'd help improve boxing for everybody as well as the young fighters coming into such a corrupt environment.

[aboutfkntime]

I thought the 15 million Team AJ were waiting for Wilder’s ink not the other way round? How many offers do they have to make over the 35% that you deemed as fair before you to take them seriously . Now Wilder is suggesting 50/50 and somehow you question team Joshua

nope, that is bullshlt

no idea how you came to that conclusion

they lowballed Wilder 15m..... WHICH HE ACCEPTED

it was widely announced that the fight would proceed

then Hearn refused to include wording in the contract that GUARANTEED Joshua next..... which is absolutely 100% losing your pen

they shat themselves when Wilder called their bluff and accepted an offer that was intended to kill the fight

all well-documented

this topic should not be - and would not be - open for discussion..... if punters were honest

[lion33lit]

"Its up to AJ"?! Yeah right! AJ said its up to Hearn. These guys are the teeter totters of shifting responsibility when it comes to these potential checks. Hearn doesnt seem too "firm" in the least bit right now, he's already gone from 12, 15 to 40mil for the first fight. Chances are he'll wake up from his greedy unprecedented flat fee bogus offers, and at the very least give the man 45% to share with his team!

At this stage of the game Wilder deserves it because he's earned it in the "ring" with twice as much fights. The AJ UK popularity shindig has done its job of generating some extra money for the pot, but that doesnt mean for this important fight he's more deserving of much more cash at this stage of the game.

Team Hearn simply did the strategic commercial thing on an island devoid of a hero - in an already empty division, catering & appealing to some of the most bored people on the planet. AJ doesn't deserve a crazy lopsided check in his favor because boredom has gotten a temporary reprieve on his island.

[aboutfkntime]

The biggest a fight could ever be in Joshua's home market is $50m; the biggest a fight could currently possibly be in Wilder's home market is $500m.

Not sure where you're guessing the $35m for Joshua from (Joshua and Klitschko allegedly split $42m on their fight), but whatever.

Beyond that, Hearn turned punk when the fight should've been 60/40 Joshua in the UK last year and Wilder is being petty.

Hearn turned punk when Wilder accepted their 15m offer, and Fast Eddie lost his pen..... and Joshua is starting to look like a little bltch hiding behind Hearn's petticoat

[Deus]

Really? That's not at all what I've been reading. DAZN tells Matchroom what to do and Matchroom tells AJ what's up.

What on earth is that source? It's a random fluff piece which is clearly not fact checked.

There were loads of articles on this very site with direct quotes from Hearn about the DAZN deal and how DAZN have first-option on Joshua fights but do not have a deal with him specifically.

So no DAZN can't tell AJ what's up because they have no deal with Anthony Joshua.

[Noelanthony]

nope, that is bullshlt

no idea how you came to that conclusion

they lowballed Wilder 15m..... WHICH HE ACCEPTED

it was widely announced that the fight would proceed

then Hearn refused to include wording in the contract that GUARANTEED Joshua next..... which is absolutely 100% losing your pen

they shat themselves when Wilder called their bluff and accepted an offer that was intended to kill the fight

all well-documented

this topic should not be - and would not be - open for discussion..... if punters were honest

He accepted on social media just like Joshua saying give me 50 million and we will fight. Nothing in terms of the truth has been well documented you have just chose to accept that team Wilder was as forthcoming and pressed for the fight.

Listen you are convinced let’s even agree with you for argument sake . You said with your own mouth any offer 35% and above is a serious offer. Now you are talking about a 15 million offer when 4 offers have been made since then which too has been well documented . Yet nothing from you. You too have to be honest with yourself.

I suppose John skipper is bluffing too? Is 40% not enough anymore?? Imagine if Wilder was to call their bluff again? If they don’t offer 50% they are scared I imagine?

[john l]

I bet Wilder ends up with 50-50 or 55-45. All the Hearn fan boys are going to be sick lol. Like Hearn said it’s not up to him it’s up to AJ. If it weren’t for AJ Hearn would still be across the pond putting on fights no1 gives a dámn about. If the fight is in America Joshua definitely not gettin 60-40.

The truth of the matter is and ive been defending Wilder because it was pretty clear AJ did not want this fight before but Wilder does NOT deserve 50-50.Its not so much he don't deserve it its just the way it goes AJ has a whole country behind him(and a lot of nut fans)and we don't follow are fighters like that at all esp Afican Americans(and im Irish AM).But here is the rub 1st Parker got 35% so Wilder deff should get 40-45% as he is MUCH bigger here and in UK.Also Wilders people have said before that their not looking for 50-50 that's just Wilder talking out of his azz,but before all the AJ fanboys try and use this to prove Wilder is now ducking biggest payday its called negotiating and if you don't ask for 50-50 then you will NEVER get 60-40 or 55-45.But to be clear Wilder does not deserve 50-50 and if at end of day that is what stops this fight then ill be 1st to call him out because he does not have numbers quite yet for that.To the British fans im not sure you all know this because AJ is soooo big there that he is not well known over here except by hard core fans for most part,and your country is about 65 mil or so we have 400 mil almost and Wilder is prob bigger here by a little bit imo.

[john l]

What on earth is that source? It's a random fluff piece which is clearly not fact checked.

There were loads of articles on this very site with direct quotes from Hearn about the DAZN deal and how DAZN have first-option on Joshua fights but do not have a deal with him specifically.

So no DAZN can't tell AJ what's up because they have no deal with Anthony Joshua.

Bingo no deal with DAZN not even 1st option from what eddie himself said.Boxing News RIGHT NOW has a story that there is NO DAZN deal and that's an English web site.That being said Wilder does not deserve 50-50 but his people(Finkel,DiBella)have said before their not asking for 50-50 that's just Wilder talking.You also have to understand though that its called NEGOOTIATING if you don't ask for 50-50 then you will NEVER get 40-45% which is fair as they gave Parker 35% and he is no where near as popular as Wilder here and in UK.Also AJ is not very popular over here I know he is a god in England but Wilder is at LEAST as popular here and were taking 65-70 mil vs 350-400 mil.