Comments Thread For: Hearn is Firm: Wilder Doesn't Deserve 50-50 For Joshua Fight!

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Curt Henning
    Undisputed Champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Mar 2017
    • 11440
    • 551
    • 24
    • 176,018

    #271
    Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
    You said that Wilder is following the same plan as Mayweather. Floyd's skill level as displayed against the big names in his division is what made him a PPV star. Wilder has 40 wins and one PPV to his name at age 34. He KOs who? Not the best in the division. You have to beat the best to be the best and get the big PPV $$$.
    again...youre wrong and make no sense...i never said he was following the same plan....i said they are displaying a similar attitude in the aj/wilder negotiations as floyd did with pac.......i didnt say he was following floyds blueprint to becoming a star...i said hes displaying similar behavior in the way floyd went about the pac fight......arum was being a **** and fooling around with floyd...the same way hearn was being towards wilder and his people


    THATS ALL I SAID...i made no comparisons between skill level and career arch/plan

    Comment

    • Curt Henning
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Mar 2017
      • 11440
      • 551
      • 24
      • 176,018

      #272
      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
      So now you're saying that Wilder didn't have a hard time with Ortiz or Fury? He was nearly out on his feet against Ortiz and grabbed and held Fury in the 12th round after knocking him down then getting rocked himself. And he was outboxed all night by Fury; he was lucky to get a draw. To suggest that the $120 million DAZN offer isn't the best offer we've heard Wilder ever had to date is just untrue.
      he had a hard time with fury....overall...ortiz not really...and "nearly" being out on his feet is ridiculous....he took a barrage of punches and never came actually close to going down....but you will see it any way you want....wilder never left his feet

      he struggled overall with fury...and still dropped him twice....so in those two fights he dropped his opponents 5x while never going down......id say he did ok for a guy that only has "one weapon"...as you and others have said "one weapon"....hes landed that weapon several times in his two biggest fights.....and came away without an L...not bad for such a limited and one dimensional guy...that one dimension always seems to find its way in

      Comment

      • Scipio2009
        Undisputed Champion
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Apr 2014
        • 13741
        • 276
        • 64
        • 98,172

        #273
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        That doesn't even make sense you moron. Lol
        Lennox Lewis was the last lineal champion; there's no dis*****g that.

        What doesn't make sense, lol?

        Comment

        • Scipio2009
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Apr 2014
          • 13741
          • 276
          • 64
          • 98,172

          #274
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
          Yep, and it'll be snake eyes.
          Maybe. But that's still his bet.

          Comment

          • New England
            Strong champion.
            Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
            • Oct 2010
            • 37514
            • 1,926
            • 1,486
            • 97,173

            #275
            hearn is right, wilder doesn't bring in giant moneyw ithout joshua. it's an odd situation, but one where joshua clearly commands more of the purse. they need to come here and make the fight in las vegas and on US PPV to maximize revenue. but it's only a giant fight because of joshua, even if it's here. joshua is the reason tyson fury was as big of name as he was. he and hearn are the primary reason boxing is so popular in the UK at the moment. he and hearn are also the primary reason that HW boxing is the biggest money division in the sport. it was not when tyson fury and deontay wilder were around. they predate joshua.


            so again, wilder's team has ground to stand on when they say that the fight should be here, on american PPV and in las vegas. however they need to be realistic about splitting revenue. 55-45 or even 60 40 would be more than reasonable. deontay wilder will bomb on ppv against anybody not named tyson fury or anthony joshua.

            Comment

            • QballLobo
              Undisputed Champion
              • Nov 2011
              • 7153
              • 1,310
              • 112
              • 48,002

              #276
              Showtime knows Wilder isn’t a draw, hence his next fight being on regular Showtime.

              Comment

              • aboutfkntime
                Undisputed Champion
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Feb 2015
                • 47370
                • 1,631
                • 3,563
                • 391,308

                #277
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                ......Keeping it real ? The only thing you keep on this forum is a guaranteed top idiot spot with the other Wilder excuse makers, About F'ing time you grew a brain kid!


                Joshua will be rematching Charles Martin before you get a clue kid

                Comment

                • aboutfkntime
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 47370
                  • 1,631
                  • 3,563
                  • 391,308

                  #278
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  again...youre wrong and make no sense...i never said he was following the same plan....i said they are displaying a similar attitude in the aj/wilder negotiations as floyd did with pac.......i didnt say he was following floyds blueprint to becoming a star...i said hes displaying similar behavior in the way floyd went about the pac fight......arum was being a **** and fooling around with floyd...the same way hearn was being towards wilder and his people


                  THATS ALL I SAID...i made no comparisons between skill level and career arch/plan


                  I noticed those comparisons immediately

                  as soon as Hearn got caught pulling his Arum 2.0

                  Comment

                  • aboutfkntime
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 47370
                    • 1,631
                    • 3,563
                    • 391,308

                    #279
                    Originally posted by New England
                    hearn is right, wilder doesn't bring in giant moneyw ithout joshua. it's an odd situation, but one where joshua clearly commands more of the purse. they need to come here and make the fight in las vegas and on US PPV to maximize revenue. but it's only a giant fight because of joshua, even if it's here. joshua is the reason tyson fury was as big of name as he was. he and hearn are the primary reason boxing is so popular in the UK at the moment. he and hearn are also the primary reason that HW boxing is the biggest money division in the sport. it was not when tyson fury and deontay wilder were around. they predate joshua.


                    so again, wilder's team has ground to stand on when they say that the fight should be here, on american PPV and in las vegas. however they need to be realistic about splitting revenue. 55-45 or even 60 40 would be more than reasonable. deontay wilder will bomb on ppv against anybody not named tyson fury or anthony joshua.


                    yea, good post

                    but that is the exact same position that Golovkin was in with Canelo

                    not a draw, but worth 40-45% to Canelo

                    even Pac to a certain extent with Mayweather..... not pulling Mayweather numbers, or even close..... but worth 40% to Mayweather regardless

                    it has always been that way, the kiddie keyboard accountants are fkn ******ed

                    Comment

                    • Curt Henning
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 11440
                      • 551
                      • 24
                      • 176,018

                      #280
                      Originally posted by New England
                      hearn is right, wilder doesn't bring in giant moneyw ithout joshua. it's an odd situation, but one where joshua clearly commands more of the purse. they need to come here and make the fight in las vegas and on US PPV to maximize revenue. but it's only a giant fight because of joshua, even if it's here. joshua is the reason tyson fury was as big of name as he was. he and hearn are the primary reason boxing is so popular in the UK at the moment. he and hearn are also the primary reason that HW boxing is the biggest money division in the sport. it was not when tyson fury and deontay wilder were around. they predate joshua.


                      so again, wilder's team has ground to stand on when they say that the fight should be here, on american PPV and in las vegas. however they need to be realistic about splitting revenue. 55-45 or even 60 40 would be more than reasonable. deontay wilder will bomb on ppv against anybody not named tyson fury or anthony joshua.
                      i dont disagree

                      55-45...60-40 is realistic....but lets see hearn come with that...in vegas...with american ppv.....come with it hearn!!!

                      wilder is saying 50/50....but i feel like if AJs guys came with US...ppv....and either of those two other splits wilder would do it in a heartbeat.....but theyve yet to....and its logical that they would if they wanted to get the fight done.....i think wilder is just saying that 50/50 stuff but hes willing to come down a little if they are ready to be serious

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP