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  • #41
    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
    Stop it he didn’t only get dropped in the 12th lol he got dropped twice. Also got dropped by a cruiserweight Steve Cunningham. Him going the distance with the 110th ranked boxer Pianata should let you know that he doesn’t hit as hard as the other heavyweights I mentioned. Stop that out of shape excuse. He had been through three training camps before he faced wilder and he cheated the VADA testing he was in shape.




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    He wasn’t in shape? This was about 5 months before the Wilder fight lol.




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    I think he was referring 'fighting shape' which anyone who's boxed knows all about, fighting shape is very much different to being fit. I agree about Fury being chinny though but that's always been the case, I mean he went life and death with McDermott twice for god sake lol.

    If you can honestly sit there and say Fury was 100% , then there's not much anyone can say to you. Just look at him then and look at him now its clear as day, or better still look at his previous fights, the timing, sharpness was all off, also inactivity also reduces punch resistance, so all these things gave Wilder the huge advantage in the fight.
    The fact he didn't blast out Fury within 5 rounds says it all really.

    The three camps prior you're referring to, Fury was still trying to strip weight in his defence, When you're in camp and you're still trying to trim down weight to that extent, the important work is obviously not getting done.

    You would have to fancy Fury in the rematch, He can make adjustments, Wilder clearly cannot and after 41 fights will just fight in the exact same way.

    In another low punch volume fight that goes to the cards again though, Wilder will get the nod, due to obvious reasons.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post
      Two knockdowns do not equal a win my friend.
      Doesn't equal a loss either. You score the fight round by round, and then tally the points.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        If Team Wilder allowed Wilder to fight a doped up Fury then Wilder need to fire their asses. That means they are incompetent. Am shocked that they allowed Fury to fight Wilder without any sort of testing.

        It also meant the WBC lied that both fighters passed VADA, wasn’t that the same thing that the WBC did with Durrell/Yidirim? Announce that they passed their test when both fighters were never tested by VADA...
        Placing blame everywhere but towards the cheater. Everyone besides Tyson Fury is at fault lol. Typical

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ray* View Post
          I expect a match fit Fury to truly outbox Wilder, just someone is in shape doesn’t mean their head is in the right place, like Ali once said “Your eye sees it but your body can’t process it quicker like it use to”

          Let’s see Wilder/Fury after Fury has had enough tune ups and match fit. Wilder would be Wilder, swinging for the hills, he isn’t going to change now after 41 fights. If that was a full fit Fury then we wouldn’t even see any knock downs.
          I think Fury's lack of fitness in the fight and need for further tune ups is overblown. His style is not one that substantially diminishes with a lack of fighting. He isn't a rhythm fighter. He is a mover/spoiler and not a boxer/puncher who tries to play offense as defense while standing in front of his opponent. It's why he looked exactly like he looked vs Klitschko as he did Wilder (only difference is Wilder let his hands go more).

          To be honest, the longer the gap between fights, the more likely he is to get KO'd. Why, Wilder doesn't have to change anything. He just has to pick up where he left off, and remember to throw more straight right hands than overhand rights. Who is Fury going to fight that can simulate Wilder's length and athleticism? How is additional fitness going to impact a fighter in Wilder who now knows what to expect regarding the "awkward" movement.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by cally93 View Post
            I think he was referring 'fighting shape' which anyone who's boxed knows all about, fighting shape is very much different to being fit. I agree about Fury being chinny though but that's always been the case, I mean he went life and death with McDermott twice for god sake lol.

            If you can honestly sit there and say Fury was 100% , then there's not much anyone can say to you. Just look at him then and look at him now its clear as day, or better still look at his previous fights, the timing, sharpness was all off, also inactivity also reduces punch resistance, so all these things gave Wilder the huge advantage in the fight.
            The fact he didn't blast out Fury within 5 rounds says it all really.

            The three camps prior you're referring to, Fury was still trying to strip weight in his defence, When you're in camp and you're still trying to trim down weight to that extent, the important work is obviously not getting done.

            You would have to fancy Fury in the rematch, He can make adjustments, Wilder clearly cannot and after 41 fights will just fight in the exact same way.

            In another low punch volume fight that goes to the cards again though, Wilder will get the nod, due to obvious reasons.
            I saw Fury do the same things he's done in his prior fights. The only difference was a 6-7 athletic opponent was throwing punches at him, wildly I might add, and preventing him from looking like the "Fury of old". Also, what "adjustments" can Fury make that will give him a better chin. He still has to fight nearly 12 perfect rounds just as before. Lastly, how can one say Wilder can't adjust when he actually adjusted in the fight and was able to get the knock downs in the later rounds.

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            • #46
              American nationalistic fanboys and the biased media have a really rough time selling the ultimate Hypejob in Wilder to the masses. It eventually worked on the back of the 2 UK Heavyweights, since Wilder himself has the charisma and personality of a kitchen chair and simply because most US boxing fans are extremely biased simpletons who love to get manipulated and ignore the facts.

              I respect the US fans who say, damn we got a really terrible hypejob as our champ, I wont be lying about his skills etc but I will stand behind him.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                I saw Fury do the same things he's done in his prior fights. The only difference was a 6-7 athletic opponent was throwing punches at him, wildly I might add, and preventing him from looking like the "Fury of old". Also, what "adjustments" can Fury make that will give him a better chin. He still has to fight nearly 12 perfect rounds just as before. Lastly, how can one say Wilder can't adjust when he actually adjusted in the fight and was able to get the knock downs in the later rounds.
                Wilder didn't make any adjustments at all, he was throwing the same punch combo all fight, only difference is in the later rounds when Fury tired he was finally able to clip him, no adjustments there I'm afraid.

                I agree you cannot adjust a chin, but Fury has always been chinny and like I said earlier that will never change. Fury can make plenty adjustments, adjustments are don't have to be massive, even doing subtle things like making better use of his legs and employing more head movement, will see Wilder punching air even more so than last time.

                Yes Wilder can take him out in one punch, but he makes that many mistakes its scary, I think a fully fit Fury can stop him (If the ref lets him - Refer to Ortiz fight)

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by cally93 View Post
                  Wilder didn't make any adjustments at all, he was throwing the same punch combo all fight, only difference is in the later rounds when Fury tired he was finally able to clip him, no adjustments there I'm afraid.

                  I agree you cannot adjust a chin, but Fury has always been chinny and like I said earlier that will never change. Fury can make plenty adjustments, adjustments are don't have to be massive, even doing subtle things like making better use of his legs and employing more head movement, will see Wilder punching air even more so than last time.

                  Yes Wilder can take him out in one punch, but he makes that many mistakes its scary, I think a fully fit Fury can stop him (If the ref lets him - Refer to Ortiz fight)
                  See previous post re: Fury's lack of fitness in the fight being overblown. As far as Fury stopping Wilder, there is next to zero likelihood of that happening even with the most fighter safety slanted ref in the business. Who does Fury stop? How?

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                  • #49
                    wilder mad he got outboxed by a fattie, hey deontay u lucky u still got that belt ^^

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                      Placing blame everywhere but towards the cheater. Everyone besides Tyson Fury is at fault lol. Typical
                      Checkmate! I knew your agenda from your post. It’s all about protecting Wilder. When I brought up his team, the WBC corruption in terms of testing from another fight, that didn’t suit your narrative.... Yeah very typical of fanboys.

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