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  • Ray*
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    I think Fury's lack of fitness in the fight and need for further tune ups is overblown. His style is not one that substantially diminishes with a lack of fighting. He isn't a rhythm fighter. He is a mover/spoiler and not a boxer/puncher who tries to play offense as defense while standing in front of his opponent. It's why he looked exactly like he looked vs Klitschko as he did Wilder (only difference is Wilder let his hands go more).

    To be honest, the longer the gap between fights, the more likely he is to get KO'd. Why, Wilder doesn't have to change anything. He just has to pick up where he left off, and remember to throw more straight right hands than overhand rights. Who is Fury going to fight that can simulate Wilder's length and athleticism? How is additional fitness going to impact a fighter in Wilder who now knows what to expect regarding the "awkward" movement.
    Definitely not overblown, you have to live the lifestyle. You cannot be a part time boxer and succeed. When Wilder got injured before his mandatory against Povetkin, his team made sure he had those runs of bums and made sure his shoulder was back to normal before taking the Povetkin fight.

    This things in boxing is not something simple at the higher level. You can get away with it against the Pianeta and seferi of these world but there are levels in this shit!

    He shouldn’t have fought Wilder December 1st IMHO, to even outbox him was a miracle in opinion, it shows how poor Wilder was in that fight. With proper tune ups and enough activities/rounds under his belt he wouldn’t have allowed Wilder to land on him for the final KD. But his body can only do what his body can do at that point. That’s why I quoted Ali.

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    • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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      #52
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Checkmate! I knew your agenda from your post. It’s all about protecting Wilder. When I brought up his team, the WBC corruption in terms of testing from another fight, that didn’t suit your narrative.... Yeah very typical of fanboys.
      Yeah you mentioned everything except Tyson Fury cheating. You didn’t checkmate anything you got smacked for trying to cover up cheater Fury tactic by blaming Wilder team lol pathetic.

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      • Nusky
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        #53
        "Im massive risk to health and career". Same way Aj feels about wilder

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #54
          Originally posted by Ray*
          Definitely not overblown, you have to live the lifestyle. You cannot be a part time boxer and succeed. When Wilder got injured before his mandatory against Povetkin, his team made sure he had those runs of bums and made sure his shoulder was back to normal before taking the Povetkin fight.

          This things in boxing is not something simple at the higher level. You can get away with it against the Pianeta and seferi of these world but there are levels in this shit!

          He shouldn’t have fought Wilder December 1st IMHO, to even outbox him was a miracle in opinion, it shows how poor Wilder was in that fight. With proper tune ups and enough activities/rounds under his belt he wouldn’t have allowed Wilder to land on him for the final KD. But his body can only do what his body can do at that point. That’s why I quoted Ali.
          I gather that Fury had been living the lifestyle for over a year before entering the ring with Wilder. Was he at his peak. No, but I do not feel there was much more he could have done against Wilder that would have changed the way the fight went. Fury's gift is his reflexes and upper body flexibility. Those things appeared to be on form during the fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            To be honest, the longer the gap between fights, the more likely he is to get KO'd. Why, Wilder doesn't have to change anything. He just has to pick up where he left off, and remember to throw more straight right hands than overhand rights. Who is Fury going to fight that can simulate Wilder's length and athleticism? How is additional fitness going to impact a fighter in Wilder who now knows what to expect regarding the "awkward" movement.
            This is why Fury dodged the rematch: Wilder had figured out what worked and what didn't by the end of that fight. Any new fight Wilder would have an advantage because he already knows how to approach it.

            This is the same reason Fury dodged the rematch with Klitshcko. In the 12th round Wlad finally started to hit him (Fury) with hard shots. There was no way in a rematch Wlad was going to fight like he did rounds 1-11. As was proven when we saw against Joshua, a completely renewed Klitschko.

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            • cally93
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              #56
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
              See previous post re: Fury's lack of fitness in the fight being overblown. As far as Fury stopping Wilder, there is next to zero likelihood of that happening even with the most fighter safety slanted ref in the business. Who does Fury stop? How?
              It's really not being overblown it's a legitimate point to make, everyone sees it, only the Wilder fanboys say and see otherwise.
              Even after Wilder almost sent Fury to hell in the 12th, Fury got back up and had Wilder effectively out on his feet.

              Fury can stop Wilder this time, Doesn't matter he's feather fisted he still managed to hurt Wilder didn't he? Wilder effectively punched himself, that's when he can be taken out, as I expect Wilder to fight in the exact same manner.

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                #57
                Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
                Yeah you mentioned everything except Tyson Fury cheating. You didn’t checkmate anything you got smacked for trying to cover up cheater Fury tactic by blaming Wilder team lol pathetic.
                Yeah you are really dumb, lol cover up. This is about your emotional love affair with Wilder, you don’t care about anyone else cheating unless it affects your Wilder... that’s the checkmate right there. You talking about Fury not signing up to testing in time, but you refuse to blame the WBC or Team Wilder. Yeah just blame Fury, the guy that wasn’t ranked in the top 15 when he was cherrypicked, the guy who wasn’t meant to be doing any testing because he wasn’t ranked. Who placed him in the ranking after Wilder cherrypicked him? The WBC, but yeah let’s blame just Fury because he embarrassed your boyfriend lol.

                Anything else to say about the corruption with the WBC in regards to Dirrell and Yildirim non-testing? Nah it doesn’t affect your boyfriend or narrative. I can’t wait for posters like you to be gone once Wilder retires. You guys are the worse boxing fans ever.

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                • Ray*
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  I gather that Fury had been living the lifestyle for over a year before entering the ring with Wilder. Was he at his peak. No, but I do not feel there was much more he could have done against Wilder that would have changed the way the fight went. Fury's gift is his reflexes and upper body flexibility. Those things appeared to be on form during the fight.
                  Nope he wasn’t living the life. I would take a fighter like Fury everyone of the week than someone like Joshua who actually lived the life... see what I did there? Yeah that’s what Wilder thought too.. Cherrypicked him. And still couldn’t beat him at his worse.

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                  • Ake-Dawg
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by cally93
                    It's really not being overblown it's a legitimate point to make, everyone sees it, only the Wilder fanboys say and see otherwise.
                    Even after Wilder almost sent Fury to hell in the 12th, Fury got back up and had Wilder effectively out on his feet.

                    Fury can stop Wilder this time, Doesn't matter he's feather fisted he still managed to hurt Wilder didn't he? Wilder effectively punched himself, that's when he can be taken out, as I expect Wilder to fight in the exact same manner.
                    In a previous post I think you said Wilder was "rocked". Now he was out on his feet. Wow! Fury has all the POWAH!!!!

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                    • Real King Kong
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      Besides the crash,the titanic looks like the safest ship in the world. Besides the meltdown Chernobyl looks like the perfect place to raise a family. Aside from having hepatitis pamela Andersons pssy looks perfect to stick my tongue in....
                      well it shouldn't...what is she now, 50? this isn't the 90s when you used to beat off to Baywatch.

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