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  • guyver8
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    #191
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Eddie Hearn isn't dealing in good faith, and he hasn't since he saw that Wilder had a legit offer for Joshua that was worth more than Hearn could rightly deliver for a Joshua fight in the UK (nevermind Joshua's share of a split).
    What I find quite funny, is that Wilders team send just one single suspect $50m offer via email, in about 12 months, whilst making communication difficult, cancelling meetings ect and you still believe they wanted the fight.

    Actions speak louder than words. That being said.......

    Just the other day, when Finkel was asked why he doesn't make another offer, he said the fight needs to marinate. So don't expect another offer anytime soon, but possibly, if we're lucky "some time in your lifetime" Another gem from Finkel.
    Last edited by guyver8; 03-27-2019, 10:11 PM.

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    • Scipio2009
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      #192
      Originally posted by guyver8
      What I find quite funny, is that Wilders team send just one single suspect $50m offer via email, in about 12 months, whilst making communication difficult, cancelling meetings ect and you still believe they wanted the fight.

      Actions speak louder than words. That being said.......

      Just the other day, when Finkel was asked why he doesn't make another offer, he said the fight needs to marinate. So don't expect another offer anytime soon, but possibly, if we're lucky "some time in your lifetime" Another gem from Finkel.
      Hearn got the email and talked out 7 key questions that he had with Al Haymon, before presenting the offer to Joshua. If you want to call that suspect, that's on you.

      Whether he was joking or not, Anthony Joshua said that he'd sign if he actually got $50m, got $50m offered and still didn't sign.

      What use is there sitting for any meeting when there is no agreement on the big line item?

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      • Real King Kong
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        #193
        Originally posted by john l
        Fury rocked him?????????When???????I do know Wilder KHTFO for 5sec not counting other KD which happened at end of rd.Sry to tell you the truth but we both know that don't matter to you.
        Fury did rock wilder in the 12th just after the kd. He hit him with a 2 piece that caused wilder to hold on and abandon going for the ko for the remainder of the round.

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        • hitking
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          #194
          Originally posted by john l
          What a joke they do that with EVERONE now.Walk here then walk there its just they way they do it and Fury got same treatment when he went down.10 hours smdh it was not even 10sec and he already had a min rest and was clearly ready to continue.And he never went down even Fury was dropped by a 190pd cruiser.
          I literally couldn’t tell whether Fury was being given a ten count or a field sobriety test. But like you said, that’s just how they do it now. On one hand, it frustrates you as a fan, especially when you have a rooting interest in the fight. But on the other hand, I’m all for increased fighter safety. And I’ve seen way too many guys take brutal finishing shots when they were clearly unable to defend themselves.

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          • Earl-Hickey
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            #195
            He's criticised cause he's a ***git

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            • guyver8
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              #196
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Hearn got the email and talked out 7 key questions that he had with Al Haymon, before presenting the offer to Joshua. If you want to call that suspect, that's on you.

              Whether he was joking or not, Anthony Joshua said that he'd sign if he actually got $50m, got $50m offered and still didn't sign.

              What use is there sitting for any meeting when there is no agreement on the big line item?
              In 2022, if the fight hasn't happened yet, I can see you'll still be going on about this suspect $50m. First offers are often rejected, no problem, make another, negotiate and meet somewhere in the middle. I only see one side, making numerous offers, setting up meetings and moving towards the other. While the other side sits waiting, doing absolutely nothing other than giving lip service for the gullible to parrot on blogs and forums.

              Actions speak louder than words, although even words are now indicating that "Wilder wants the fight to marinate".

              Anyway the longer this marination (ducking) goes, the less likely Wilder is to beat Joshua when (if) they do fight, given the 4 year age disadvantage. I look forward to the inevitable, "Wilder wasn't in his prime excuses".
              Last edited by guyver8; 03-27-2019, 11:01 PM.

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #197
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                Yes, you're making things up. Which you don't even deny now as we both know you have no way of knowing what Wilder makes.

                As for hiring an investigator, it's not really a big deal if you have the financial means. I really don't want to get into all of that kind of stuff as of course you'll insist I'm lying.

                But I did confirm my identity to the boxingscene admin as well as the user "Billeau2." So they're both now aware of the very wealthy and powerful family I come from. It's really no big deal to hire a PI.
                You're lying or your investigator lied.

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                • Manlikefemi
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Eddie Hearn isn't dealing in good faith, and he hasn't since he saw that Wilder had a legit offer for Joshua that was worth more than Hearn could rightly deliver for a Joshua fight in the UK (nevermind Joshua's share of a split).

                  That's why you'd have to go to Adam Smith (Head of Sports, Sky Sports; low-key have an early 90's WWF situation here, lol).

                  Adam Smith has Hearn by the balls, so Hearn can't simply disregard him (and jeopardize his main UK business) on the chance launching in the US (doubt that the DAZN deal is guaranteed, tbh).

                  Haymon having the relationship with ITV steps on things a bit, but there's enough Showtime talent, in my opinion, to sweeten the deal (Haymon is the plug for most of it, but one could rightly say that Wilder, Floyd (and by extension Mayweather Promotions; Davis, Andrew Tabiti, Badou Jack to an extent, and Floyd's young fighters near breaking through; 'Memphis' Miller, Juan Heraldez, etc), Mikey Garcia, Devin Haney, 'Boots' Ennis, Claressa Shields, etc are marked for Showtime).

                  In a similar way to how Les Moonves stepped in to seal Mayweather-Pacquiao.
                  LOL. Adam Smith has no real power at Sky Sports. He’s really just head of the production of boxing at Sky. Barney Francis is the one that makes the decisions at Sky Sports.

                  And why would a UK Sports Exec Get involved ? Sky will have the UK Rights to Joshua-Wilder. That’s all they care about. Joshua still clears around 1M PPV Buys for Sky, so they really couldn’t care less if he fights Wilder or not.

                  It’s upto Joshua to take more control and get the fight made and being more realistic when it comes to the pot of money.

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                  • Ray*
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                    #199
                    The only way the undisputed HW fight happens is if Wilder happens to lose his belt. And even if he does they would somehow get him a rematch, or the WBC would rank him as the next mandatory. So when everyone was upset about the Klitschko not letting us have all four belts in one place, now we have this scenario where Wilder is being treated like a slave. Shame as I think he should be the undisputed if his team allows him out of their protective shackles around his neck, hopefully he wouldn’t be too old by the time they allow him out.

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                    • Bjl12
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by john l
                      Fury rocked him?????????When???????I do know Wilder KHTFO for 5sec not counting other KD which happened at end of rd.Sry to tell you the truth but we both know that don't matter to you.
                      What does it matter if Fury got dazed? He recovered in 9 seconds lol

                      Wilder needed 3 minutes to recover from 45 year old Ortiz...and the ref helped Deontay for like 30 seconds in that round...

                      "Sry to tell the truth" LMFAOOOO

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