Tyson Fury : quiet; I send Wilder messages and he doesn't reply any more

[Curt Henning]

these guys play with wilder and jerk him around and then get pissy when he stops playing with them...its hilarious.....everyone who isnt a UK fanboi can see it....

its pretty sad...i at least thought fury had balls...he talked a big game....then performed well ...i thought he was all man......i even was not that mad at him for delaying this rematch....but your promoter just said "feb 2020 at the earliest".....so stfu and dont mention wilder till fall

[_Rexy_]

Do you think Wilder would give him a voluntary in the UK? And/or away from Showtime? That's Fury's argument - that he won't put himself in that position again. Fury doesn't get to be the A side in a voluntary defence by Wilder.

Same goes for a mandatory against Joshua. Is the WBO a 30% cut for the mandatory? He wouldn't take that would he?

He was getting 40% as an ordered challenger. I don't see how he does better than that, and it apparently it wasn't enough for him.

And that's the problem, he's going to be viewed as the "B Side" against either guy (I hate this A/B crap)

I have no idea if Wilder would fight in the UK or not. I'd probably want to do it in Vegas with neutral refs agreed on by both parties just to maximize revenue. I also have no idea if he would fight on ESPN or not. The original report was that it was a 5 fight deal, then a 3 fight deal. Nobody is going to sign with a network for 5 or 3 fights to get your guy. I doubt Wilder would sign 5 fights to his own damn network lol.

[Pigeons]

These Wilder fans are ****ing hilarious. This clown thinks Fury-Wilder 2 would be a 100 mil rematch. They made 7 mil each in the first. Wilder is now back on regular showtime, but his fans think he's a Canelo level PPV fighter.

Fury's next fight is on an app. You played yourself.

[Curt Henning]

fury neglected to tell us he really sent the message to marcellos..."aye mate...put on a few pounds and we can get it awn ya"!?!?!

[Zaryu]

He doesn't reply to Hearn/AJ either.

Well, they're not exactly friends either, but I understand him not replying to Fury, I don't know what to say in regards to him not replying to Hearn and AJ. I would ideally want him working with them to make the AJ fight this year (sooner rather than later).

[DaNeutral.]

lmao he never came back to answer how its a 100m lol

They never do.

[_Rexy_]

Fury's next fight is on an app. You played yourself.

Is it though? I thought ESPN only put their big fights on the app

[Curt Henning]

Is it though? I thought ESPN only put their big fights on the app

eh wouldnt be suprised if they think that furys "espn debut" is a "big fight"...

[W1LL]

What do you think the odds are of Wilder or Joshua giving Fury a voluntary title defence? And conceding ground so that Fury doesn't face all the things you just mentioned?

His best chance is surely taking a mandatory status to purse bids.
Or leveraging a mandatory status to improve the deal during negotiations.

Well he just had that. Against a titlist he just outboxed. If that wasn't enough for him then it's never going to get better.

So what's his plan? It seemingly doesn't involve winning titles off Wilder or AJ.

I don't blame him for taking this deal. He can earn good money for reasonable fights that he should win comfortably without too much risk. He's been a world champion and still claims lineal status.

But it's a retirement plan. He's cashing out of the serious part of the division. Good luck to him.

Being backed by Arum and Warren, BT Sport and ESPN is a lot stronger position than being backed by Warren and BT Sport. Or do you disagree?

ESPN and Arum are clearly willing to invest in him. He now has a much stronger bargaining position, and it won't just be "go to this fellas backyard and fight on his show." There will be negotiations and Tyson may get some things in his favour.

All he has to do is keep winning and even if AJ and Wilder do unify, Fury's name will always be brought up in any debates. Neither AJ or Wilder could call themselves the true Heavyweight King without beating Fury first. Whereas if Fury beats AJ he has done it.

[N/A]

You’re a better and more optimistic man then me

I’m a Fury fan but just how everything played out don’t think Fury wants any part of Wilder at least for the foreseeable future.

To me , If Fury wanted the rematch and was confident he’d win and wouldnt get sparked out , Why not take the rematch , get the W and Wilders strap , then head over to Espn( I’d think the big $ deal would still be there from Espn and he’d have raised his stock ) , If Fury won he would replace Wikder as the guy who would fight AJ for all the marbles.

I agree with everything you're saying, but Arum has convinced a lot of fighters over the years to take the safe paydays and avoid the big fights. That is his business model. However, in this instance, Arum can't make his money back without a rematch, so I do think he'll push for it eventually. Just after getting Fury the WBO title so it can be a unification.