Comments Thread For: Povetkin Has Agreed To Fight Usyk, Luis Ortiz or Dillian Whyte

[The plunger man]

Are you including Wilder in the main three?

I think most boxing observers think of the top 3 as Joshua, Fury and Whyte these days.

Wilder has lost all credibility and clearly is not very good after getting beaten by Fury.

Wilder has never been very good.....just look at his past defences......getting beat by spilka before a lucky shot outboxed by denzil washington for 4 rounds of all boxers , duhuapas taking him into the late stages of the fight and he couldnt even drop him , getting almost stopped by 40 year ortiz , molina making him go all bandy legged and fury scholling him for 9 rounds to 3....he's being protected by the haymon brigade and its only a matter of time before someone lays him out.....wilder is pony

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Povetkin vs Usyk is the one fight I want to see more than the others. It will be a great stepping stone (although Takam is as well) into the heavyweight division to truly test Usyk.

Besides that, I think Whyte needs a fight against Povetkin the most. Although, I'm not entirely sure if he could even beat a shot Povetkin.

At Povetkin's age, he's going to struggle/probably lose to Ortiz--- even though both men are past their bests. I'd rather be the tall, old guy than the short, old guy, you know?

[Froch_uppercut]

Povetkin vs Usyk is the one fight I want to see more than the others. It will be a great stepping stone (although Takam is as well) into the heavyweight division to truly test Usyk.

Besides that, I think Whyte needs a fight against Povetkin the most. Although, I'm not entirely sure if he could even beat a shot Povetkin.

At Povetkin's age, he's going to struggle/probably lose to Ortiz--- even though both men are past their bests. I'd rather be the tall, old guy than the short, old guy, you know?

Why is Povetkin 'shot'?

How long have you been following boxing? Years ago, many boxers (including Ali, Frazier, Hagler etc) all had losses and were not considered 'shot'.

He looked good against Joshua, who is a very good HW by any standard.

I think that this idea that you need to have an 0 on your record has really hurt boxing. It comes from Mayweather's era and he sold it to people. He avoided the best fights and he had everything his way (gloves, refs, location, judges etc), he then 'sold' the notion that a zero on your record = pay me more and more and more. And he did a great job of it. This is why Wilder ducks so much. Because he knows that nowdays his value is greatly diminished when he suffers a loss.

Truth is, I'd love to see him in lots of other fights after AJ (assuming AJ beats him). He would still be of interest to boxnig fans like me.
I'd love to see the Fury rematch, a Klitschko fight like he is talking about, how would he fare against Whyte? Joyce? Miller?

Let's get away from this 0 bulls&&%t, and let's encourage fighters to make fights, fight more often, and let's not call guys 'shot' if they attempt to beat the best and come up short.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Why is Povetkin 'shot'?

How long have you been following boxing? Years ago, many boxers (including Ali, Frazier, Hagler etc) all had losses and were not considered 'shot'.

He looked good against Joshua, who is a very good HW by any standard.

I think that this idea that you need to have an 0 on your record has really hurt boxing. It comes from Mayweather's era and he sold it to people. He avoided the best fights and he had everything his way (gloves, refs, location, judges etc), he then 'sold' the notion that a zero on your record = pay me more and more and more. And he did a great job of it. This is why Wilder ducks so much. Because he knows that nowdays his value is greatly diminished when he suffers a loss.

Truth is, I'd love to see him in lots of other fights after AJ (assuming AJ beats him). He would still be of interest to boxnig fans like me.
I'd love to see the Fury rematch, a Klitschko fight like he is talking about, how would he fare against Whyte? Joyce? Miller?

Let's get away from this 0 bulls&&%t, and let's encourage fighters to make fights, fight more often, and let's not call guys 'shot' if they attempt to beat the best and come up short.

Maybe calling him "shot" was excessive. I could have said: "Povetkin is past his prime and on the decline". That's a fact.

Povetkin is 39 years old.

If you can't grasp Povetkin is not anywhere close to his peak as a boxer, then it's probably because you've never done boxing, or any sport seriously. Plus, one could easily look at Povetkin in his younger days and compare it to how he looks now (although, PEDs and all).

[Froch_uppercut]

Maybe calling him "shot" was excessive. I could have said: "Povetkin is past his prime and on the decline". That's a fact.

Povetkin is 39 years old.

If you can't grasp Povetkin is not anywhere close to his peak as a boxer, then it's probably because you've never done boxing, or any sport seriously. Plus, one could easily look at Povetkin in his younger days and compare it to how he looks now (although, PEDs and all).

Fair enough. I'd agree with "past his prime" which clearly he is.

I still think quality guys like him, Wlad, Hopkins, Calzaghe and others still have / had a lot to offer post-prime.

In Povetkin's case, I'd say he's a good measure of where some of these young gunslingers are after they get through their first 10 or 12 or so (more?) fights. At that point they should be ready to take a few risks. Maybe that's a good role and a few paydays for a fighter like Povetkin, testing these guys and sorting the good ones from the not so good.
I boxed a few years in my teens in UK, not at a great level but it gave me an appreciation for the nuance of the sport and as a lifelong footy (soccer) player I have immense respect for the fitness involved in boxing.

[brettWall]

How many current heavyweights have better resume than Wilder?

Just imagine if they fought and beat Luis Ortiz.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Fair enough. I'd agree with "past his prime" which clearly he is.

I still think quality guys like him, Wlad, Hopkins, Calzaghe and others still have / had a lot to offer post-prime.

In Povetkin's case, I'd say he's a good measure of where some of these young gunslingers are after they get through their first 10 or 12 or so (more?) fights. At that point they should be ready to take a few risks. Maybe that's a good role and a few paydays for a fighter like Povetkin, testing these guys and sorting the good ones from the not so good.
I boxed a few years in my teens in UK, not at a great level but it gave me an appreciation for the nuance of the sport and as a lifelong footy (soccer) player I have immense respect for the fitness involved in boxing.

No doubt he still has something to offer. Povetkin was a top tier fighter back in the day, and even now at his age, he's still in the top 10 without a doubt (probably top 5 technically). I think he could still beat Whyte right now, although I'm starting to lean more towards Dillian. Back in the day when he was younger? He would have decapitated him.

I could have definitely worded things better. I get too passionate, too easily sometimes online with boxing . My bad.

[rickJen]

So Usyk and Whyte are not currently available for Povetkin.
Is the Ortiz vs Povetkin fight being negotiated?
Is this a DAZN or Showtime, if it happens?