Can mikey become a 5 division champion?

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  • pasawayako
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    #51
    Originally posted by daggum
    no what floyd did was worse because they were both champs in the same division in a unification fight and yet he still demanded a catchweight. that was embarrassing.
    lol. Yeah that's so disgusting and embarassing. Both are champion in the same division and the other one demand a catchweight. I think even floyd own fans was so ashamed of him.

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    • daggum
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      #52
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      It doesnt matter if Oscar picked the weight, how does that change the outcome of the fight, the only reason Manny won was because Oscar was a dead man at 145 pounds, thats 20lbs smaller than the Oscar Floyd beat, 20lbs lol.

      The Marquez weight was Roach saying we will make him sluggish thats why they wanted 147 and didnt that back fire lol.

      Hatton was a typo but was shot anyway and a coke addict with a new trainer .

      Every fight Manny has got some BS going on , they are you facts go look at every fight.
      it matters because you keep inventing these counterfactuals based on weight when it was oscar who picked the weight.

      so when he wants a catchweight against marquez its bullsh-it and you complain but when he fights him at the full 147 its bullsh-it and you complain. ok...

      i looked at every fight there and only 2 of his 16 ww fights were at catchweights. he also beat 5 top 5 guys or 7 top 10 guys if you expand it out. only one of those were catchweight fights so your argument isnt matching up with the facts that hes only fighting shot and little fighters. yes some fights suck. some don't. pretty typical really.

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        #53
        Originally posted by pasawayako
        lol. Yeah that's so disgusting and embarassing. Both are champion in the same division and the other one demand a catchweight. I think even floyd own fans was so ashamed of him.
        it was especially embarrassing because floyd previously said i only fight guys who are healthy and i just want a fair fight when criticizing pac then he did something way worse with that catchweight crap when they were both champs in the same division.

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        • Squ□redCircle34
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          #54
          Hell no, the weight makes him sluggish and a sitting duck!

          He was a plodder vs Spence and only his chin, heart and solid defense kept him from getting sparked out!

          His best chance is if Broner somehow wins a belt but that won’t happen either!

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            #55
            He's in the position to do it. He just chose the wrong guy in Spence though. But it's not yet too late. He can find a weaker champion he has more shot at winning against or some of them might end up vacating the belts. Mikey might be able to get some crack in any of those days and he's still young enough to wait for that time. Oddly though, it seems like he's going to be the weakest 5 div champ in history based on his resume.

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              #56
              Pacquiao and Mayweather were just two freaks - mentally, physically, genetically. There are some very good boxers around today, though they won't reach the same heights as those two, and that's perfectly okay, they can still be great in their own right.

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                #57
                It depends on who he's matched against, I don't think he can beat any of the current WW titleholders.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Very few boxer in the history of the sport is a 5 divison champion. If mikey can get a title in his 5th division it will a very big achievements for him. Only extemely good fighter can becone a 5 division champion.
                  Title Holder... the term you're looking for is "title holder". Mikey's best chance was the unify the belts at 140. That might still be a possibility w/ Crawford staying at Ww, and Loma talking about returning to Jr Lw. Let's be honest, he's sort of today's Harold Johnson --- technically sound, pretty much perfect, he also has heart and a chin; but while he doesn't have the physical tools to compete with his peers.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
                    He's in the position to do it. He just chose the wrong guy in Spence though. But it's not yet too late. He can find a weaker champion he has more shot at winning against or some of them might end up vacating the belts. Mikey might be able to get some crack in any of those days and he's still young enough to wait for that time. Oddly though, it seems like he's going to be the weakest 5 div champ in history based on his resume.
                    But still it would be a very big achievements for mikey and until now becoming a 5 diivision champ is very very hard to achieve and only special fighter can do it.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      it was especially embarrassing because floyd previously said i only fight guys who are healthy and i just want a fair fight when criticizing pac then he did something way worse with that catchweight crap when they were both champs in the same division.
                      You mean changing your mind when a bigger guys calls you out with a CW, is that like refusing blood testing in the biggest fight in history and then making B graders take the very same testing you refused lol. Is that the same kinda of mind changing ?

                      Come on now just apply youre BS logic to Manny and his career is full of contradictions and weight manipulation, but you cant do that as you have Floyd rules and then you have Manny rules and they very different lol.

                      Here is your logic, Oscar was a total dead man walking the worst dehydrated fighter Ive ever seen in a title fight, Oscar was 154 and had not made 147 in over 10 yrs the only way Manny would fight was at 147 knowing Oscar will have loads of trouble, come fight night sure enough Oscar is screwed and is lighter than Manny.

                      And you rejoice what a great win by Manny because oscar wanted the weight, Oscar wanted 150 originally and Manny was no way, maybe he knew Oscar was way better than a washed up Margarito for 150 lol, more of this one weight for you and another weight for him over there.

                      Then beating a waif on a drip is youre idea of a great win, anybody in boxing knows Oscar was totally ruined and had no chance once the weighin was done, even Roach said it wont go 3 rounds when he seen Oscar on the scales.

                      Manny is the biggest weight manipulator in history thats a fact.

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