Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Spence is a PPV Fighter, Maybe They'll Face Him Now

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  • markther
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    #41
    Originally posted by Luilun
    P4P has nothing to do with your record When P4P was created it was all about a Hypothetical match up if both guys were the same size So in your mind you would have to Imagine if say Both Lomacheko was a Welter and he fought Spence who do you think would win and if Lomacheko is above Spence than most think Lomachenko would win . Wilder is 39 and 0 and Jousha is undefeated and both are not on the list why because you're imaging if Spence Crawford were the same size as Wilder who do you think would win. Heavyweight are rally P4P number 1 because most people think their skills are no where close to a lighter guy such as Lomachenko. So I hope this cleared it up for you. As for Lomachenko having a loss how many guys you know would fight for a World Title on their 2nd fight and win ?
    I do understand what your saying and how they come up with the P4P list because I posted their criteria here around a year ago. But based on your logic and thought process, it’s not inconceivable that some boxing experts, if not most, would think Spence would beat Lomo if they were the same size. And based on how he “technically” fought Garcia. A lot of boxing experts thought if Spence went down in 2 weights, the outcome would have been the same. I just think people underrate the boxing ability of Spence.

    And that title fight in Lomo’s 2nd fight ending in a loss to Salido. He does have wins over Russell Jr, Walters, Linares, and Rigondeaux so I will give him big props and credit for those wins. Those were all quality opposition. I just don’t think he should be ranked higher than Canelo who has 1 loss to Floyd and better wins on his resume. And I don’t necessarily like Canelo either.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #42
      Originally posted by Street Thug
      I needed a good laugh. The card was stacked with Mexicans, not bruvas. And its known that we bruvas cant afford ppv. That's why Floyd only fought on 5 de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day. Let's see Spence fight on MLK Day or Black Friday, then well see the numbers. Nah sayin?
      There is all kind of ignorance in your post but I'll let it slide because you're from "the hood." Nah I'm sayin.

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      • HitmanTommy
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        #43
        Originally posted by bronx2245
        that's exactly what happened! that's why spence's target for 2020 should be canelo @ 160! no one can give him a bigger payday in the sport, and that will break the record @ at&t...easy! Those fans want revenge (and they'll pay to see it), even though it was the mexican who called out spence jr., and not the other way around!
        160???????

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        • Jsmooth9876
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          #44
          Originally posted by James Hunt
          Sure. Just like Loma became PPV star by beating Rigo, right? Another PBC Koolaid, served by ****y "The Popcorn" Shaver. :wank:
          Loma-Rigo was on ESPN I'm pretty sure, not PPV.
          Besides, Mexican americans drive the boxing PPV market. Spence is not a PPV star in any way yet.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #45
            Originally posted by HarvardBlue
            There is all kind of ignorance in your post but I'll let it slide because you're from "the hood." Nah I'm sayin.
            Obviously a racist brit taking the mickey at black Americans who don’t tow the Eddie Hearn propaganda and fall in line with all things dazn

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            • JWHardin
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              #46
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Sad, but true! That's why I keep sayin' Spence should target Canelo, and not Crawford! Does he want De La Hoya vs. Mayweather figures, or Maywether vs. Judah figures?
              Spence would probably have to sign a multi-fight contract with DAZN to get a fight with Canelo. Besides that, Canelo has Jacobs problems, Andrade problems, and Charlo problems. Spence would be too high of risk right now without enough reward. Great fight in a couple of years.

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              • -Kev-
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                #47
                So how much did the PPV sell? I was telling someone that if it does 250k or less, it's a bomb. If does 300k or more, those numbers would be impressive.

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                • R.KHLMS4LIFE
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                  #48
                  Unless it's canelo vs GGG or Spence or deontay vs AJ r fury or Manny vs Thurman r Mayweather why pay for ppv go stream it on periscope also dazn has an excellent app rather pay dazn 20 dollars than 75-80 dollars to showtime anyday also dazn u get great boxing matches plus bellator mma. I'm surprised more boxers haveny signed to dazn. Ppv is dead except for 2 names apps are the future

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                  • Luilun
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by markther
                    I do understand what your saying and how they come up with the P4P list because I posted their criteria here around a year ago. But based on your logic and thought process, it’s not inconceivable that some boxing experts, if not most, would think Spence would beat Lomo if they were the same size. And based on how he “technically” fought Garcia. A lot of boxing experts thought if Spence went down in 2 weights, the outcome would have been the same. I just think people underrate the boxing ability of Spence.

                    And that title fight in Lomo’s 2nd fight ending in a loss to Salido. He does have wins over Russell Jr, Walters, Linares, and Rigondeaux so I will give him big props and credit for those wins. Those were all quality opposition. I just don’t think he should be ranked higher than Canelo who has 1 loss to Floyd and better wins on his resume. And I don’t necessarily like Canelo either.
                    Yea I see your point since Canelo has jumped up to 168 to win titles

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HitmanTommy
                      160???????
                      He walks around @ 160, so it shouldn't be a problem! That"s what makes Floyd and Manny so special! They're always within 10-15 lbs. from their fighting weight! Errol can do 160 easy! I would like him to fight Castano @ 154 first, and then Canelo! Might as well b/c Thurman and Porter don't want none!
                      Last edited by Bronx2245; 03-22-2019, 05:28 AM.

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