Rick Glaser - Spence/Garcia tracking maybe as high as 340K PPV's sold

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  • _Maxi
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    #11
    Here rick explains his calculation method which I believe is pretty inaccurate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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      #12
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
      Why do people quote this guy?

      Glaser is NOT in the boxing business. He's a convicted felon for rolling back car meters when he was a car salesman. Yes, he couldn't even hold down a job selling cars, but boxing fans actually quote this guy.
      The guy is a complete joke and his reasoning for how he comes up with his numbers is even worse.

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        #13
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Spence has the chance to be the out right A-side against Crawford. Going to be very very interesting to see what happens if he gets Pacquiao next and that PPV does big numbers and Crawford/Khan does okay but nothing special numbers.

        At that point TR will almost surely have to send Crawford to SHO/FOX for that fight right? Not nearly as big to do a split PPV? I mean Wilder/Fury has a chance to do really big numbers so I can see a split PPV there, but for Spence/Crawford? I guess it would also depend on how big of a star Spence becomes.
        you mean Mikey. Those were mostly Mikey fans that attended. Did you hear the crowd and you know us Mexicans bought most the ppvs. Let Spence fight porter or thurman on ppv and u will see how many ppvs Spence sells

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          #14
          They could sell 1 mill ppvs and the fight still ******

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            #15
            Originally posted by killakali
            you mean Mikey. Those were mostly Mikey fans that attended. Did you hear the crowd and you know us Mexicans bought most the ppvs. Let Spence fight porter or thurman on ppv and u will see how many ppvs Spence sells
            No, Mikey definitely was a huge part of this as well, but this isn't a case of Mikey bringing in all the buys and the crowd like say a Pacman would. Spence had his fair share of fans and contributed to the PPV as well.

            So when the Spence/Pacman fight pulls in 600-700k buys and brings in 55-60k in attendance, you're going to say all that is Pacman?

            Sorry, that's not how it works. All this is going to be used in Spence's favor when they go to the negotiation table.

            But if you want to say Mikey did all this, so does that mean he is the clear A-side over Lomachenko?

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              #16
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              No, Mikey definitely was a huge part of this as well, but this isn't a case of Mikey bringing in all the buys and the crowd like say a Pacman would. Spence had his fair share of fans and contributed to the PPV as well.

              So when the Spence/Pacman fight pulls in 600-700k buys and brings in 55-60k in attendance, you're going to say all that is Pacman?

              Sorry, that's not how it works. All this is going to be used in Spence's favor when they go to the negotiation table.

              But if you want to say Mikey did all this, so does that mean he is the clear A-side over Lomachenko?
              lets see how well Loma sells vs an unknown in Crolla in LA first.

              Pacquiao isn’t fighting Spence lol. And Spence isn’t a bigger PPV than Broner either.

              Mikey would be responsible for at least 65% of ticket sales and ppvs. Especially ppvs.

              Spence “sells” (I say that loosely because jones bought all the tickets And gave a lot away and the rest were resold ) and Spence didn’t do a good rating on showtime in they Ocampo fight either.

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                #17
                Originally posted by killakali
                lets see how well Loma sells vs an unknown in Crolla in LA first.

                Pacquiao isn’t fighting Spence lol. And Spence isn’t a bigger PPV than Broner either.

                Mikey would be responsible for at least 65% of ticket sales and ppvs. Especially ppvs.

                Spence “sells” (I say that loosely because jones bought all the tickets And gave a lot away and the rest were resold ) and Spence didn’t do a good rating on showtime in they Ocampo fight either.
                Spence's ratings have been better than Garcia's. His ratings he does on SHO have been better than anyone minus Wilder/Broner. So behind those two he is on par with any PBC fighter. And obviously all the FOX shoulder programming helped both fighters out.

                Spence still put 14k against O'campo.

                Spence contributed well to the PPV this weekend and obviously to 47k in attendance.

                Pacquiao at this point fights who Haymon tells him to fight. He essentially sold his soul to him the moment he had Haymon take care of his tax situation for him. He may fight Thurman, that's fine. But Pacquiao fight is going to happen unless he takes an L to Thurman. Knowing he can take an L to Thurman, I see Haymon trying to feed him to Spence, who out of the two is the one with star potential. That is long gone with Thurman due to his inactivity and all the injuries he faces.

                65% of the ticket sales and PPV buys eh? Interesting, very interesting.

                Spence is on track to being the clear cut A side against Crawford. Not sure why that upsets you so much.

                But I mean if Garcia contributed to "65% of the ticket sales and PPV buys" then he should be NO question the clear cut A side against Lomachenko, right? I mean nothing Lomachenko does against Crolla will come close to selling 350-400k PPV buys and putting 47k in the stands against Spence.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  Why do people quote this guy?

                  Glaser is NOT in the boxing business. He's a convicted felon for rolling back car meters when he was a car salesman. Yes, he couldn't even hold down a job selling cars, but boxing fans actually quote this guy.
                  Damn, Pomp with the ether.

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                    #19
                    Good PPV number for bad fights isn't that good on the long run. Nothing worse than casuals feeling screwed after paying for a PPV for a fight that was so hyped just to see a fighter not trying to win while the other fighter for some strange reason doesn't want to stop the other guy despite having numerous opportunities.

                    With Floyd Mayweather there was this love hate relationship that people had for him and they kept buying PPV for that reason despute some fights not being exciting. Neither Mikey nor Errol have the personality to have that so they need to deliver exciting honest fights in the ring and they failed to do that in their fight, hopefully they live up to the expectations in their next fights.

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                    • killakali
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by KTFOKING
                      Spence's ratings have been better than Garcia's. His ratings he does on SHO have been better than anyone minus Wilder/Broner. So behind those two he is on par with any PBC fighter. And obviously all the FOX shoulder programming helped both fighters out.

                      Spence still put 14k against O'campo.

                      Spence contributed well to the PPV this weekend and obviously to 47k in attendance.

                      Pacquiao at this point fights who Haymon tells him to fight. He essentially sold his soul to him the moment he had Haymon take care of his tax situation for him. He may fight Thurman, that's fine. But Pacquiao fight is going to happen unless he takes an L to Thurman. Knowing he can take an L to Thurman, I see Haymon trying to feed him to Spence, who out of the two is the one with star potential. That is long gone with Thurman due to his inactivity and all the injuries he faces.

                      65% of the ticket sales and PPV buys eh? Interesting, very interesting.

                      Spence is on track to being the clear cut A side against Crawford. Not sure why that upsets you so much.

                      But I mean if Garcia contributed to "65% of the ticket sales and PPV buys" then he should be NO question the clear cut A side against Lomachenko, right? I mean nothing Lomachenko does against Crolla will come close to selling 350-400k PPV buys and putting 47k in the stands against Spence.
                      i never even mentioned Crawford or their potential fight lol. How or why would it bother me.

                      As for Lomachenko vs Garcia. Your argue probably would have been correct before he got blown out of the water vs Spence and wasn’t remotely competitive. You can’t say his star power is the same as it was before that loss now. I think he needs a good rebound win.

                      You can’t say Spence gets better ratings than Mikey either. Spence averaged 683,000 vs Ocampo. Mikey 680,000 vs Easter.

                      Spence averaged 637,000 can peterson. Mikey averaged 618,000 vs Lipinets. Not much difference at all.

                      Lomchenko has consistently drawn better ratings than Mikey while Crawforods ratings blow Spence’s out of the water every time except his one fight after Olympic basketball. Those are just the facts.

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