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  • kafkod
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    #51
    Originally posted by Chrismart
    Finkel has always been worried about taking this fight, and Wilder does as he's told.
    Originally posted by Mirror Universe
    Finkel is saying they won't sign an unfair deal because they know the fight will only get bigger and if the fight is going to be now, the deal has to be fair.

    It's not about the actual dollar amount, which is why Wilder wants 50/50. Considering his last PPV generated the same amount as Joshua's last PPV, 50/50 isn't as ridiculous as you think.

    Wilder didn't sign the contract because there was no language guaranteeing the fight would be next. It wasn't about having a finalized venue, it was about Hearn refusing to include language that the fight would be next. In the Fury contract, there was standard language about not taking any interim fights and the timeframe the fight would take place in. All things Hearn refused to put in his contract.
    Fact check: AJ earned more from his last fight than Fury and Wilder earned combined from fighting each other.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Cracaphat
      The fighters are giving the power back to their managers/promoters which is not good. There are going to be fights that should have had,but didn't because of these managers getting in the way.The only reason Wilder and Joshua can play silly buggers is because the crop of threatening heavyweights is weak.
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        #53
        So Finkel just admitted they are marinating the fight for another year. Who's surprised?

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        • sicko
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          #54
          I need to hear more from the fighters and less from everybody else! Shelley Finkle rarely talked to the media for YEARS

          Wilder and AJ need to have a Man to Man... No Hearn! No Finkle!, No Haymon!

          The fans want to see THEM FIGHT not Hearn vs Finkle

          NOBODY spoke for Mayweather so if you're going to try a do the "I'm My Own Boss" things like Mayweather then start speaking for yourself like he did! In this Heavyweight Division you cannot afford to build up and Marinate because it is only a matter of time before both lose

          Another thing Mayweather did during Negotiations, he put a gag order in place! Eddie does entirely too much talking publicly which is why things have been so difficult
          Last edited by sicko; 03-20-2019, 11:09 AM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Adamsc151
            Finkel is taking a risk by letting it marinate for further profit, and why is Wilder letting him do it?
            I'm sure it was Wilder who was accusing Joshua's team of trying to wait until he was age-damaged; looks like it's his own management team that's risking this happening, and was doing so the whole time while throwing blame the other way.
            Originally posted by Chrismart
            Finkel has always been worried about taking this fight, and Wilder does as he's told.
            I can think of only one explanation for this irrational decision by Wilder and for the extreme hatred and anger he feels toward Eddie Hearn personally .. "That guy put me through hell!"

            I think Wilder is afraid of fighting AJ because he knows there is a strong chance of him ending up unconcious and twitching on the canvas, the way he likes to brag about leaving other men. The thought of that happening to him is too much for his immature, emotional, egotistical character to bear.

            I believe that Haymon and Finkel are using Wilder's fear of getting KTFO by AJ to keep him tied to them.

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            • MC Hammer
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              #56
              Originally posted by 5000boxing
              Everyone who knows business knows what this is.. 120 million for 3 fights.. 15m for Breazeale, 40m for AJ, and 65m for rematch. I WISH HE TOOK IT.. but, his perspective is, once ge dethrones AJ, if he gets past miller, it will be worth more than 65m.. not to mention the 50 to 60 million for the first azz whoopin.. AJ will retire before facing Wilder twice.. so u gotta get it all the first time! The End.
              They said 120 over 4 fights not 3.

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              • pillowfists98
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                #57
                Finkel and Haymon both don't want the Joshua fight and they've convinced Wilder not to take the DAZN deal. Wilder is getting played big time.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                  Finkle is exactly right about that last part about implied ownership. Nailed it spot on. Hearn seems to think wilder should “yassa boss”, buck dance, and c**n every time Hearn twinkles his little silver bell. Hearn, and his nationalist sycophtic fans, believe wilder should just do as he is told by some foreigner talking down to him. Hearn may have all the privilege in the world in London, England but these American men of color are a bit more independent and proud than what we are used to in the uk. And I love that about the African people of descent in my adopted American home. I love their pride.
                  For 120m I would call anyone massa or dance like a monkey, anything to get my hands on that 120m...when I do get it I live like a king forever! You make no sense once again...it is business, it not even Eddie negotiating didn’t you read that? Wilder is an emotional clown if he gets beat up by Breazeale then the world would laugh at his ******ity for rejecting a 120m generation changing money based purely on emotions and because daddy Al Haymon instructed him to do so... and why does Wilder always claim to be his own boss???why does he try to convince anyone who listens? Why doesn’t Shelly or Al Haymon say they work for Beyoncé like Hearn does?

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                  • Adamsc151
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    The two fights with AJ were the deal!

                    The only way they wouldn't materialise is if Wilder lost to Breazeale.
                    That was my understanding of the deal as well. Bearing in mind Breazeale is a living, breathing heavy-bag, Wilder should beat him meaning the AJ fight's were as nailed on as they could be. DAZN just wanted the opportunity to showcase a Wilder KO win on their service to further build the unification of 2 KO artists.

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                    • Adamsc151
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      I can think of only one explanation for this irrational decision by Wilder and for the extreme hatred and anger he feels toward Eddie Hearn personally .. "That guy put me through hell!"

                      I think Wilder is afraid of fighting AJ because he knows there is a strong chance of him ending up unconcious and twitching on the canvas, the way he likes to brag about leaving other men. The thought of that happening to him is too much for his immature, emotional, egotistical character to bear.

                      I believe that Haymon and Finkel are using Wilder's fear of getting KTFO by AJ to keep him tied to them.

                      You could be right about Wilder being terrified of receiving what he dishes out.
                      Wilder's team are making a big deal about fighting both Fury and Ortiz in the last few fights, but those fight's weren't what they seemed. Ortiz was at least 5 years past his prime - Hearn trialed him and he looked crap against Malik Scott and Dave Allen so he let him go. Your pic's define the reason he fought Fury; Wilder thought he would still be fat and out of shape, but the big man surprised most and turned in a performance almost as good as he did against Wlad. I reckon at least 95% of boxing fans believe Fury was robbed that night as well.

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