Comments Thread For: Hearn: Wilder and Fury Don't Want Joshua - Now Fans Know!

[Jkp]

Maybe that’s why Wilder turned down money that would have changed his life forever: because he thought maybe good old JKP would prefer it if I swerve away from Joshua.

Deontay’s a straight up ducker and he’s p*ssed me off

What I was trying to say is, You dont have to be on the same network to make a fight.

Fight is more likely to happen if fighters are on different networks for the reasons mentioned in other post.

[Jkp]

Maybe that’s why Wilder turned down money that would have changed his life forever: because he thought maybe good old JKP would prefer it if I swerve away from Joshua.

Deontay’s a straight up ducker and he’s p*ssed me off

What makes you think hes ducked anything?

AJ's fighting Miller, Wilder fighting Brezeale.
What happens after that will tell you whos ducking.

Theres no reason why the fight can't be made straight after that, now that Fury has chickened out of the picture.

The fight will happen sooner without Dazn controlling both fighters. If AJ wants the fight.

[Redgloveman]

What makes you think hes ducked anything?

AJ's fighting Miller, Wilder fighting Brezeale.
What happens after that will tell you whos ducking.

Theres no reason why the fight can't be made straight after that, now that Fury has chickened out of the picture.

The fight will happen sooner without Dazn controlling both fighters. If AJ wants the fight.

With the numerous offers that have come to Wilder from AJ it's pretty god damned clear that AJ wants the fight. That's just being objective.

[Redgloveman]

Fury battled with depression, but he had 3 camps and 2 fights since that bout with depression! He trained and got that weight off, not between one fight and the next, but over an entire year! There's a big difference from a 30 year old. whose last fight was 3.5 months ago, and a 42 year old, who was inactive for 18 months! When Fury fights again, will you still be saying he's coming from depression? Wlad is relevant because if you're gonna throw shade at Wilder for Fury, then you must throw shade for Joshua for Wlad!

So what if I throw shade at Joshua, who the fk even cares? You Wilder fans are so obsessed with AJ it's borderline h0m0.

The initial point which you made was:

"I don't think they're (Wilder and Fury) afraid of getting beat, or Fury wouldn't have fought Wlad on the road, and Wilder wouldn't have fought Luis Ortiz! Wilder has fought Fury and Ortiz! That's not fear!"

I pointed out that Fury was hardly a scary proposition when the fight was made. He got taken the distance and took shots against a guy ranked outside the top 50, in his previous fight he was literally laughing in the ring to the point that the referee had to tell him to fight. Both fights he got booed. Let that sink in.

It's a pretty basic point, but you're so obsessed with Joshua that you just had to bring him up.

[sweetpea87]

Did Wilder sign a multi-fight deal with Showtime or just the one to fight Brezeale?

[john l]

Rejecting the $100 3-fight DAZN offer has nothing to do with Wilder not wanting to fight Joshua. It's simple math. A percentage is better than a flat fee guarantee. If the Joshua fight makes $150 million and Wilder is locked in at $40 million, where does the other $110 million go? How much of a percentage is $40 million in the rematch if Wilder wins the first fight...

That's why you work with percentages and not flat fee guarantees. That's why the $50 million against 50% Sky offer to Joshua was such a great offer and spoke volumes about Joshua's true desire to fight Wilder when it was shockingly refused.

No need for a 3 fight deal with DAZN or a 5 fight deal with ESPN. Just a 2 fight deal against Joshua on DAZN or a 2 fight deal against Fury on ESPN with fair PERCENTAGES for each fight. And it doesn't have to be negotiated until after the WBC mandatory. That way, Wilder gets fair compensation for generating a $100 million fight or a $200 million fight.

Don't even try with that troll until he moves out of moms basement and takes down AJ poster from ceiling and gets a GF.He is completely a fanboy idiot

[lfc19titles]

Did Jacobs have a rematch clause? Did Linares have a rematch clause? Did Pacquiao have a rematch clause? And as I remember, Deontay wasn't offered a rematch clause with that $12.5 Million Dollar offer! It can be done, and has been done, with out multi-fight deals, or rematch clauses!

Let me be clear one more time

Wilder and Joshua both want a rematch clause

You are deflecting wilder ducking

[john l]

AJ is signed to Matchroom Boxing..and there's a lot more in what you said but you people can't be helped.

YEA signed to Matchroom but NOT SIGNED to DAZN other then Miller fight.Hearn himslf has said in past many times AJ was NOT part of Matchroom/DAZN deal.Fact look it up or shut up.

[john l]

Funny that everyone except the people who it was given to, has seen it right?

Well Espinnoza said he seen it now he has a dog in fight so take it how you want but only one saying different is Hearn and are you saying we should just take his word?There was also a story I believe on ESPN where the writer also claimed to have seen it.And Hearn EVEN said he got offer just no FULL CONTRACT.Well if a party does not respond to offer you don't send full contract that's just NORMAL business practice.And also you never have a full contract UNTIL you get together and hash out ALL the fine details.It seems to me that a lot of people are just taking a KNOWN liar like Hearn word for it.And from being around boxing last 35yrs I can say Finkel has one of the better reps in sport.But in this situation I would not take his word 100%(again dog in fight)either but has MUCH better rep in business then Hearn.

[john l]

What’s wrong with Wilder fans, you’d have to be living under a rock not to know Breazeale was always his next fight, how’d you think that fight got made instantly the news of Tyson’s new contract broke? Haymon has had it lined up for a year now, if he’d lost to Fury (which he did as it turns out, but anyway Haymon wasn’t gonna let that happen either), then he’d been scrambling for a rematch but he managed to salvage that situation and so it’s back to Plan A, keep hold of the belt as long as possible.

If you think the stuff you read in the media is true, you’re being puppeted by the Haymon machine.

You must really be a moron THIS IS FROM FURY HIMSELF!!!!HE SAID no direct rematch it cant be any clearer then that.And of course the Breazeale fight was made easy its his MANDATORY.Fury pulled out of 50-50 deal and THEN said EVEN IF Wilder signed to ESPN it would still not be 1st fight.You have to be one he ll of a fanboy or idiot not to understand it esp after it COMES ST8 FROM YOUR HERO.Case closed go try and sell that sh ite to someone else.Really you are deluded and wasting my time.